Floyd's legacy stuck between a rock and a hard place.

[The Tase]

You start your post with cant cant cant......when it's can't.
If your gonna come in and teach people how to spell, please be perfect at it.

Mutha ****ers are not doing spelling checks after every post lol. Get the **** out of here.

Hey dumb ass....How many prime hall of famers were out there for Floyd to fight?

enough with all of your excuses you floids infested patient.

Pacquiao for one, cotto might be another, but waited until he got worn down by margs & pac. winky was another at 154 but floyd instead chose oscar.

what a sleazy opportunist.

[Kagami Taiga]

Pac's resume was never under any scrutiny, because no one ever proclaimed him to be the GOAT. During that span he was beating all those legends, they were still legit wins. Don't act like he wasnt an under dog in each of those fights barring the 1st Morales fight. He even beat Lehlohonolo Ledwaba before them to get recognition. He was a heavy heavy under dog in that fight too.

thats a like and u expose your bias. dude this thread backfired on you a day ago. do yourself a favor and shut up. u clearly have no idea what u are talking about.

[!! Shawn]

He was absolutely slick. He grandfathered the style that Ali,SRL,FLOYD,JONES,etc. use today. If theirs no Ray Rob, we might be seeing a bunch of Joe Louis clones, who the fugg knows.

Don't just watch his KO highlights on youtube, watch the full fights. He was no doubt slick.

Ive seen all of his recorded fights. Robinson had two forms of defense, his feet, and his offense. He relied heavily on his chin, and his fantastic control of range to do what he did, much as Arguello did. To say that he grandfathered the style is asinine. Jersey Joe Walcott, Archie Moore, Willie Pep and the famed trainer Georgie Benton are all much better prototypes for the styles that we saw from them.



Show me where he is slick.

Now look at Georgie Benton... Who looks more like Floyd? Georgie Benton retired only 5 years after SRR.



You over estimate the influence that fighters have on other fighters. At the end of the day, it is their trainers that teach them how to fight, not other fighters.

[Kagami Taiga]

enough with all of your excuses you floids infested patient.

Pacquiao for one, cotto might be another, but waited until he got worn down by margs & pac. winky was another at 154 but floyd instead chose oscar.

what a sleazy opportunist.

who the **** wouldnt?? not to mention when floyd fought oscar winky had left the division for 160.

seriously wtf is wrong with the ppl on this site??

[timboslice708]

thats a like and u expose your bias. dude this thread backfired on you a day ago. do yourself a favor and shut up. u clearly have no idea what u are talking about.

I raised a valid debate, and the thread got over 4,000 views, holla at ya boy. Butt hurt Floyd fan, if your so outraged at my thread, then stop posting in it. SMH.

[IronDanHamza]

who the **** wouldnt?? not to mention when floyd fought oscar winky had left the division for 160.

seriously wtf is wrong with the ppl on this site??

Mayweather offered Winky Wright a 50/50 split and Winky Wright priced himself out and walked away.

[SkillspayBills]

Just call it junior LW. It's 130, and I have Alexis Arguello beating Floyd at 130.

LMAO Floyd absolutely beats Alexis Arguello at 130. Floyd had top level boxing ability, KO power in each hand, otherworldly reflexes and top level defene to boot. Best 130 pounder EVER. Floyd is also top 3 at 140 based on ability, too bad he can't add that 140 resume to it as well.

[Kagami Taiga]

Mayweather offered Winky Wright a 50/50 split and Winky Wright priced himself out and walked away.

winky did this type of stuff all throughout his career. not the first time, and im a huge winky fan, but thats how he operated.

[IronDanHamza]

Ive seen all of his recorded fights. Robinson had two forms of defense, his feet, and his offense. He relied heavily on his chin, and his fantastic control of range to do what he did, much as Arguello did. To say that he grandfathered the style is asinine. Jersey Joe Walcott, Archie Moore, Willie Pep and the famed trainer Georgie Benton are all much better prototypes for the styles that we saw from them.



Show me where he is slick.

Now look at Georgie Benton... Who looks more like Floyd? Georgie Benton retired only 5 years after SRR.



You over estimate the influence that fighters have on other fighters. At the end of the day, it is their trainers that teach them how to fight, not other fighters.

You make good points. Ray Robinson wasn't the slickest of the slick, but I wouldn't say he wasn't slick at all. He was definitely a slippery fighter was a solid defense.

He loved to **** though, he was a fighter. He would happily stand and trade and go toe to toe when I had to.

And you're right, there's a lot of fighters who are a lot slicker than Ray Robinson.

[timboslice708]

Ive seen all of his recorded fights. Robinson had two forms of defense, his feet, and his offense. He relied heavily on his chin, and his fantastic control of range to do what he did, much as Arguello did. To say that he grandfathered the style is asinine. Jersey Joe Walcott, Archie Moore, Willie Pep and the famed trainer Georgie Benton are all much better prototypes for the styles that we saw from them.



Show me where he is slick.

Now look at Georgie Benton... Who looks more like Floyd? Georgie Benton retired only 5 years after SRR.



You over estimate the influence that fighters have on other fighters. At the end of the day, it is their trainers that teach them how to fight, not other fighters.

Yeah, look at their movement. Ray Robinson used angles, and great foot movement. He also used a style that many slick fighters use, the lunge in left hook, ala Floyd/Roy/Ali/Shane/SRL. He figured out, that you can use your feet and completely keep the fight at your pace. Watch the Robinson/Lamotta fight, he dissected a plodding brawler. Your trying to compare Ray Rob to James Toney, but in reality, without Ray Rob, there wouldnt be Floyd/Ali/SRL/Jones. Just like if their was no Dr. J, theirs no MJ.