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Why does Mayweather win a lot of fantasy fights? I'll tell you why.

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  • #61
    because Mayweather is one of the most skilled fighters in boxing history and it is boxing fans who can put emotions to the side and just focus and match up his skills to great legends form the past

    Mayweather is 1 of a very few fighters that could do well in just about any ERA because of his skills and especially with that Defense and the version of Mayweather especially at 130-135 when he was much more aggressive, no questions can match up to some all time greats

    sadly for him he is so far above and beyond the competition of his ERA that he never had that Rival and never had that other guy that worked just as hard as he did and never had the overall skills that he possessed, you had guys who was just at talented maybe even MORE TALENTED (Zab Judah) but did not have the work ethic that Mayweather did...plus a Uncle who reached a high level in his boxing career and a father who many said could have been a great fighter if he didn't get shot

    so yes Mayweather actually does matches up fairly well against legends when talking about PURE BOXING SKILLS...

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    • #62
      Originally posted by 110110110 View Post
      If I am dumb then you must be dumbest person that ever lived

      Pac beat Marquez all three times FACT,he did not struggle with Mosley unless you mistook Pac for mosley when you watched the fight.

      He lost the first morrales fight and won the other two convincingly.

      But that still docent change enything because floyd never fought them so no one knows if he would have won.
      Pac beat Marquez Twice, Fact!
      Floyd Fought Marquez September in 2009, Fact
      Floyd Fought Shane Mosley a year before Pacquiao, fact
      Floyd Fought Hatton a year and a half before Pacquiao, almpst a two year lay off for hatton, Fact
      Floyd Fought De La Hoya a year and a half before Pacquiao, Fact

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      • #63
        Originally posted by KnockUTheFukOut View Post
        because Mayweather is one of the most skilled fighters in boxing history and it is boxing fans who can put emotions to the side and just focus and match up his skills to great legends form the past

        Mayweather is 1 of a very few fighters that could do well in just about any ERA because of his skills and especially with that Defense and the version of Mayweather especially at 130-135 when he was much more aggressive, no questions can match up to some all time greats

        sadly for him he is so far above and beyond the competition of his ERA that he never had that Rival and never had that other guy that worked just as hard as he did and never had the overall skills that he possessed, you had guys who was just at talented maybe even MORE TALENTED (Zab Judah) but did not have the work ethic that Mayweather did...plus a Uncle who reached a high level in his boxing career and a father who many said could have been a great fighter if he didn't get shot

        so yes Mayweather actually does matches up fairly well against legends when talking about PURE BOXING SKILLS...

        knockuthe****out, i think the problem floyd mayweather jr., has, when comparing him in fantasy fights with all time greats is, floyd mayweather jr., may have skills, that is above his competition, but floyd mayweather jr., realistically, hasn't faced some of the best fighters of his own era, in their primes...

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        • #64
          Im reading this posts the "for May' and "against may" posts and im curious, who is these supposed prime, elite guys that mayweather was supposed to face? I've yet to see anybody answer that.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
            Floyd has not proven his ability to his perceived ability standard.

            Floyd's best win is what? Beating Cotto 8 round to 4, a fighter that had suffer two heavy defeats before.

            That is Floyd's prove level, but I've seen fantasy fights where people pick Floyd to beat guys like Duran, SRL, Benitez.

            Floyd has never proven he is on that level.
            every floyd post you dredge up on here is filled with sour g****s, and i'm pretty sure i'm not the only person who can see it

            1) you go out of your way to discredit Floyd's win over JLC, and fail to mention that Floyd fought him with an injured shoulder (this is a fact and can be proven as such by doing research). why do you fail to mention this, and choose to frame the picture as JLC winning because Floyd "wasn't good enough" or "his skills weren't good enough" when that clearly isn't the case at all

            2) you continue down this discrediting path by claming Floyd beat Cotto 8 rounds to 4, when most impartial boxing fans had Floyd winning at least 9 rounds, some even had it 10-2. again, you choose your words carefully to maneuver around the facts, hoping to make your agenda seem factual.

            you're a fraud bro, either that or just incredibly blind.

            mayweather wins a lot of fantasy fights because of his ring intelligence, and the fact that he isn't a 1-dimensional fighter unlike the other 90%+ of professional fighters. it's a shame you can't simply *watch* a Mayweather fight, watch what he does in the ring, and realize it would translate to pretty much any opponent.

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            • #66
              Another Pac-Floyd thread that proves only one thing: That Floydhuggers and Pachuggers are among the most ******ed, ignorant posters on any site, anywhere.

              Poet

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              • #67
                Prime Marvin Hagler turns floyds face not so pretty.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by KnockUTheFukOut View Post
                  sadly for him he is so far above and beyond the competition of his ERA that he never had that Rival and never had that other guy that worked just as hard as he did and never had the overall skills that he possessed, you had guys who was just at talented maybe even MORE TALENTED (Zab Judah) but did not have the work ethic that Mayweather did...plus a Uncle who reached a high level in his boxing career and a father who many said could have been a great fighter if he didn't get shot
                  He never had a rival?

                  What do you call Manny Pacquiao than? I'd qualify that as a rivalry.

                  And who did Mayweather duck? I think he waited too long to fight Mosley, I would've liked him to fight Cory Spinks, and Erik Morales I would've wanted to see at LW.

                  I don't think he ducked thosee other two, but I do think he waited on Mosley.

                  Seriously, Mayweather fought good enough competition but to be the best of this era, he's gotta fight Pac. Likewise with Pac. Without those two fighting each other, I can't put one over the other.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by B Phontain View Post
                    Im reading this posts the "for May' and "against may" posts and im curious, who is these supposed prime, elite guys that mayweather was supposed to face? I've yet to see anybody answer that.
                    thats just it, Floyd hasnt fought any elite prime fighters so the only way his fans can satisfy their lust for Floyd winning are in fantasy fights, as Floyds lack of fighting policy isnt satifying his fans lust for him winning in the real world so the only outlet is in fantasy fights, im assuming the ones making FLoyd win fantasy fights are by his fans, and not boxing fans.
                    Last edited by hugh grant; 06-04-2012, 07:54 PM.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
                      Mayweather seems to win far too many fantasy fights on here, far more than his resume would suggest he was capable of winning.

                      So why do so many plump for Mayweather when pitted against the true greats of the sport?

                      1) Mayweather has yet to lose officially as a pro, (though many had Castillo beating him in their first fight) and this give Mayweather an aura of invincibility.
                      But as we know a fighter such as JLC gave him hell and should have won their first encounter, but he is not an ATG, yet he caused Floyd all these problems.

                      2) Perceived ability over Proven ability: As I mentioned in a thread of mine last week, Floyd has benefited from a perceived ability he has, it has not been proven because he has not proved it against truly elite fighters. Much as the same as Bute was being picked to beat Froch by many because of his perceived ability and unbeaten record and because he had looked good against lesser opponents, many people pick Floyd to win fantasy fights for much of the same reasons failing to acknowledge these true greats proven ability not just perceived as Floyd.

                      3) Much as the same way, people were calling Bute intelligent, ring smart too technical, all these attributes are giving to Floyd, not that they are negative factor in a boxer, they are not but nowadays people seem to over rate them. I remember watching the build up to Spinks vs Tyson and much the same things were being said about Spinks, but people seem to over look these traits in fighters who have heart, passion, tenacity, aggression, will and just brute strength.


                      4) People overlook great fighters of the past, and because they have not seen them fight or they may have lost some fights they dismiss their talents and the much superior opposition they have beat.


                      5) Floyd tells people he is the greatest, sadly sometimes this is all it takes for some to believe this.
                      Well if you look at these people who have Floyd winning against any great fighter of the past. They are the same people who have Pac losing to all of them. In short, they are the floydiots.

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