Why does Mayweather win a lot of fantasy fights? I'll tell you why.

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Pac beat Marquez Twice, Fact!
Floyd Fought Marquez September in 2009, Fact
Floyd Fought Shane Mosley a year before Pacquiao, fact
Floyd Fought Hatton a year and a half before Pacquiao, almpst a two year lay off for hatton, Fact
Floyd Fought De La Hoya a year and a half before Pacquiao, Fact

LOL at this another alt. Show me your fact Marquez beat Pac twice.
Pac knocked down Mosley and made him run while Floyd almost knocked down, Fact.
Pac moved down in Hatton best weight division, ko him in 2 while Floyd made Hatton moved up in his best weight division, Fact.
Pac made Oscar quit and retired while Floyd almost lost to Oscar. Fact

[MRBOOMER]

LOL at this another alt. Show me your fact Marquez beat Pac twice.
Pac knocked down Mosley and made him run while Floyd almost knocked down, Fact.
Pac moved down in Hatton best weight division, ko him in 2 while Floyd made Hatton moved up in his best weight division, Fact.
Pac made Oscar quit and retired while Floyd almost lost to Oscar. Fact

When did ww become Floyd's best division ?

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When did ww become Floyd's best division ?

Floyd career at ww was well established before the Hatton fight. Hatton career at jww was well established before the Floyd fight but the fight happened at ....guess where.

[therealpugilist]

because Mayweather is one of the most skilled fighters in boxing history and it is boxing fans who can put emotions to the side and just focus and match up his skills to great legends form the past

Mayweather is 1 of a very few fighters that could do well in just about any ERA because of his skills and especially with that Defense and the version of Mayweather especially at 130-135 when he was much more aggressive, no questions can match up to some all time greats

sadly for him he is so far above and beyond the competition of his ERA that he never had that Rival and never had that other guy that worked just as hard as he did and never had the overall skills that he possessed, you had guys who was just at talented maybe even MORE TALENTED (Zab Judah) but did not have the work ethic that Mayweather did...plus a Uncle who reached a high level in his boxing career and a father who many said could have been a great fighter if he didn't get shot

so yes Mayweather actually does matches up fairly well against legends when talking about PURE BOXING SKILLS...

the best explanation ^^^^

[BrianMVP]

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2) Perceived ability over Proven ability: As I mentioned in a thread of mine last week, Floyd has benefited from a perceived ability he has, it has not been proven because he has not proved it against truly elite fighters. Much as the same as Bute was being picked to beat Froch by many because of his perceived ability and unbeaten record and because he had looked good against lesser opponents, many people pick Floyd to win fantasy fights for much of the same reasons failing to acknowledge these true greats proven ability not just perceived as Floyd.

3) Much as the same way, people were calling Bute intelligent, ring smart too technical, all these attributes are giving to Floyd, not that they are negative factor in a boxer, they are not but nowadays people seem to over rate them.

Man seriously WHAT ARE YOU SMOKING?????

"Perceived ability"????? GTF out of here, You cannot seriously call yourself a boxing fan and not appriciate Mayweather.
If you dont - you've never boxed!!! Period
Floyd is arguably the most skilled boxer of the past 25 years and is arguably the best defensive boxer of all time.
Hes the most popular since Tyson

The man is world champion since he has been 21 (hes 35 now)
14 years as a world champion!!!!
He has always faced the best available boxers of this era (Bar Pacquaio - and that because of Arum, cotto sooner -also because of arum),
do a youtube search of all the fighters he called out (after the gatti fight i think, mosley. gatti, Kosta tyzu etc etc)

People are just hating on him because he has not yet faced Pac - which will be nowhere as close as everyone thinks.
Anyway it really frustates me, because floyd is the best boxer of our era why can we just appreciate his skills man - fair enough he markets himself as a complete ******* to sell the fight, thats his downfall.
It will be 20 years until people really appreciate how good he is - more all rounded than Ali IMO
He wins most fantasty fights because he is really that good - you just blinded by his ****head personality

[Allucard]

Mayweather seems to win far too many fantasy fights on here, far more than his resume would suggest he was capable of winning.

So why do so many plump for Mayweather when pitted against the true greats of the sport?

1) Mayweather has yet to lose officially as a pro, (though many had Castillo beating him in their first fight) and this give Mayweather an aura of invincibility.
But as we know a fighter such as JLC gave him hell and should have won their first encounter, but he is not an ATG, yet he caused Floyd all these problems.

2) Perceived ability over Proven ability: As I mentioned in a thread of mine last week, Floyd has benefited from a perceived ability he has, it has not been proven because he has not proved it against truly elite fighters. Much as the same as Bute was being picked to beat Froch by many because of his perceived ability and unbeaten record and because he had looked good against lesser opponents, many people pick Floyd to win fantasy fights for much of the same reasons failing to acknowledge these true greats proven ability not just perceived as Floyd.

3) Much as the same way, people were calling Bute intelligent, ring smart too technical, all these attributes are giving to Floyd, not that they are negative factor in a boxer, they are not but nowadays people seem to over rate them. I remember watching the build up to Spinks vs Tyson and much the same things were being said about Spinks, but people seem to over look these traits in fighters who have heart, passion, tenacity, aggression, will and just brute strength.


4) People overlook great fighters of the past, and because they have not seen them fight or they may have lost some fights they dismiss their talents and the much superior opposition they have beat.


5) Floyd tells people he is the greatest, sadly sometimes this is all it takes for some to believe this.

"..... Floyd has benefited from a perceived ability he has, it has not been proven because he has not proved it against truly elite fighters." Stopped reading there. GTFO hater. Wasted time, fking hater. Floyd is one of if not the best fighter who has ever LIVED. GOT THAT?! Perceived that good enough ******?

[Allucard]

Man seriously WHAT ARE YOU SMOKING?????

"Perceived ability"????? GTF out of here, You cannot seriously call yourself a boxing fan and not appriciate Mayweather.
If you dont - you've never boxed!!! Period
Floyd is arguably the most skilled boxer of the past 25 years and is arguably the best defensive boxer of all time.
Hes the most popular since Tyson

The man is world champion since he has been 21 (hes 35 now)
14 years as a world champion!!!!
He has always faced the best available boxers of this era (Bar Pacquaio - and that because of Arum, cotto sooner -also because of arum),
do a youtube search of all the fighters he called out (after the gatti fight i think, mosley. gatti, Kosta tyzu etc etc)

People are just hating on him because he has not yet faced Pac - which will be nowhere as close as everyone thinks.
Anyway it really frustates me, because floyd is the best boxer of our era why can we just appreciate his skills man - fair enough he markets himself as a complete ******* to sell the fight, thats his downfall.
It will be 20 years until people really appreciate how good he is - more all rounded than Ali IMO
He wins most fantasty fights because he is really that good - you just blinded by his ****head personality

This. I can't believe the efforts haters go through to downplay Floyd Mayweather. It's like they're blind.

[therealpugilist]

Floyd has not taken on the big fights he could have, that could have proven his ability.

Floyd has struggled against much lesser fighters too, JLC arguably beat him.

We heard the reasons why people think Floyd beats Duran and quite frankly their reasoning is pathetic.

Very similar to the reasons we heard why Bute beats Froch.

really who could he have fought to "prove" his ability lol. So beating ten world champions in your ten last fights isnt proving you are great?

At 130 and 135 he beat the best guys their.....at 140 Kostya Tszyu lost his title to Ricky Hatton the same year Floyd beat Gatti....Floyd went on to beat Hatton at 147 after Hatton's team said he wasnt ready yet at 140....

at 147 people claim he ducked Paul Williams and Margarito, but really how is it ducking someone when you are making more money and fighting for the real world title?

Against Baldomir and beating the previous champion in Judah and has the best resume out of any active Welterweight with wins over Judah, Baldomir, Ortiz, Mosley, Marquez, Hatton, and Mitchell....beating two champions mean alot more than beating to contenders, also all risk no reward....at 154 he beat the number one guy at the weight twice....ODLH and Cotto were the top rated junior middleweights when he fought them

[D4thincarnation]

Man seriously WHAT ARE YOU SMOKING?????

"Perceived ability"????? GTF out of here, You cannot seriously call yourself a boxing fan and not appriciate Mayweather.
If you dont - you've never boxed!!! Period
Floyd is arguably the most skilled boxer of the past 25 years and is arguably the best defensive boxer of all time.
Hes the most popular since Tyson

The man is world champion since he has been 21 (hes 35 now)
14 years as a world champion!!!!
He has always faced the best available boxers of this era (Bar Pacquaio - and that because of Arum, cotto sooner -also because of arum),
do a youtube search of all the fighters he called out (after the gatti fight i think, mosley. gatti, Kosta tyzu etc etc)

People are just hating on him because he has not yet faced Pac - which will be nowhere as close as everyone thinks.
Anyway it really frustates me, because floyd is the best boxer of our era why can we just appreciate his skills man - fair enough he markets himself as a complete ******* to sell the fight, thats his downfall.
It will be 20 years until people really appreciate how good he is - more all rounded than Ali IMO
He wins most fantasty fights because he is really that good - you just blinded by his ****head personality

Perceived ability it is because he has never faced the quality of fighters that people say he would beat in fantasy fights, while those fighters are of proven ability because they have faced fighters of Floyd's ability or higher.

[therealpugilist]

Perceived ability it is because he has never faced the quality of fighters that people say he would beat in fantasy fights, while those fighters are of proven ability because they have faced fighters of Floyd's ability or higher.

Who could have he beat to proof anything he already hasnt? He has beaten more champions and titlists than any other active fighter and has the best resume at his weight, welterweight.'

Kostya Tszyu lost to Hatton when he moved to 140

wins over Baldomir and Judah> Margarito and Williams:why fight contenders when you can fight for the title and make more money

you talk about percieved ability, but forget to acknowledge both were the so called most avoided fighters for a long time because they hadnt had any big fights for a long time and hadnt beat anyone of note. Thats percieved ability, people thought they were great but they were just good.

beating those guys the time people called for those fights would have done nothing for his resume. Around the time the fights were possible they both were losing fights.