Why does Mayweather win a lot of fantasy fights? I'll tell you why.

[110110110]

And devaluing Floyds opponents, is not the same as devalue Pacquiao. The fact is Mayweather is a great fighter period. To praise Pacquiao and Mayweather is hypocritical. If you chose to be clear Pacquiao has lost twice by KO, of his 3 loses; and in the past 5 years has fought 5/11 opponents the same as Mayweather, and the would be 5 of Mayweathers 6 opponents.

Mayweather is the most skilled boxer, in the ring. If you disagree, nothing against that person but you don't understand the fundamentals of boxing at all! Stay being a fan, but stop writing **** that you don't understand.

I do agree, he would lose to dome of the greats from the past, but not all...

You dont make eny sense

That O dossent mean Floyd is better the Pac adn enyone that would use that as face is dumb period.
here is why, the only way to prove that floyd is better because of the O would be if floyd fought the exact same opponents at the same exact night as Pac.

You dont know if floyd would have beaten prime Morrales and prime barrea or eny of the other fighters Pac beat.

Floyd have been severely hurt by a washed up mosley and arguably beat by castillo.
Its not a fact that he would still be unbeaten if he had fought a different set of apponents

[tranquilo]

You dont make eny sense

That O dossent mean Floyd is better the Pac adn enyone that would use that as face is dumb period.
here is why, the only way to prove that floyd is better because of the O would be if floyd fought the exact same opponents at the same exact night as Pac.

You dont know if floyd would have beaten prime Morrales and prime barrea or eny of the other fighters Pac beat.

Floyd have been severely hurt by a washed up mosley and arguably beat by castillo.
Its not a fact that he would still be unbeaten if he had fought a different set of apponents

Speaking of dumb...

Pacquiao lost to Marquez two to three times, lost to Morales. He struggled with Mosley and was ruled a KD, and got knocked out cold by bums in the Philippines.

[American Dream]

Mayweather seems to win far too many fantasy fights on here, far more than his resume would suggest he was capable of winning.

So why do so many plump for Mayweather when pitted against the true greats of the sport?

1) Mayweather has yet to lose officially as a pro, (though many had Castillo beating him in their first fight) and this give Mayweather an aura of invincibility.
But as we know a fighter such as JLC gave him hell and should have won their first encounter, but he is not an ATG, yet he caused Floyd all these problems.

2) Perceived ability over Proven ability: As I mentioned in a thread of mine last week, Floyd has benefited from a perceived ability he has, it has not been proven because he has not proved it against truly elite fighters. Much as the same as Bute was being picked to beat Froch by many because of his perceived ability and unbeaten record and because he had looked good against lesser opponents, many people pick Floyd to win fantasy fights for much of the same reasons failing to acknowledge these true greats proven ability not just perceived as Floyd.

3) Much as the same way, people were calling Bute intelligent, ring smart too technical, all these attributes are giving to Floyd, not that they are negative factor in a boxer, they are not but nowadays people seem to over rate them. I remember watching the build up to Spinks vs Tyson and much the same things were being said about Spinks, but people seem to over look these traits in fighters who have heart, passion, tenacity, aggression, will and just brute strength.


4) People overlook great fighters of the past, and because they have not seen them fight or they may have lost some fights they dismiss their talents and the much superior opposition they have beat.


5) Floyd tells people he is the greatest, sadly sometimes this is all it takes for some to believe this.

sadly..this is also what Ali did..and with that, some actually believe the myth of Ali being the greatest..

[110110110]

Speaking of dumb...

Pacquiao lost to Marquez two to three times, lost to Morales. He struggled with Mosley and was ruled a KD, and got knocked out cold by bums in the Philippines.

If I am dumb then you must be dumbest person that ever lived

Pac beat Marquez all three times FACT,he did not struggle with Mosley unless you mistook Pac for mosley when you watched the fight.

He lost the first morrales fight and won the other two convincingly.

But that still docent change enything because floyd never fought them so no one knows if he would have won.

[The Big Dunn]

big dunn, talk about dangerous, big dunn, = if oscar de la hoya, would have just fought atg pernell whitaker, without felix, trinidad, ike quartey, fernando vargas, etc., it would have still been far better opposition, than anyone floyd mayweather jr., has faced to date...

big dunn, oscar de la hoya fought shane mosley the first time for the 147 lb. title in 2000, with oscar de la hoya getting a guaranteed 35 million, and shane mosley, a guaranteed 15 million...that was the oscar de la hoya, who had beat pernell whitaker, ike quartey, and arguably, was robbed against felix trinidad...you mean to tell me big dunn, that a 130 lb. floyd mayweather jr., is far more dangerous, and a bigger cash cow, than oscar de la hoya, or had a bigger fan base, than shane mosley?....floyd mayweather jr., in 2000, with all due respect, was nobody...

big dunn, if anybody, including floyd mayweather jr., thought bob arum could get him 20 million dollars, in 2000, when he was nobody, against oscar de la hoya, then big dunn, i got a bridge in perfect condition i will sell ya...

ODH and shane had a chance to fight floyd, they didn't. Floyd wasn't money then, he was just a well respected highly regarded boxer with little fan base. Too much risk, not enough reward.

They chose not to fight Floyd. Had they, they would lose IMO.

[al-Xander]

Speaking of dumb...

Pacquiao lost to Marquez two to three times, lost to Morales. He struggled with Mosley and was ruled a KD, and got knocked out cold by bums in the Philippines.

Yep. And I still have no idea why Mayweather keeps running away from one-dimensional Pac.

[tranquilo]

If I am dumb then you must be dumbest person that ever lived

Pac beat Marquez all three times FACT,he did not struggle with Mosley unless you mistook Pac for mosley when you watched the fight.

He lost the first morrales fight and won the other two convincingly.

But that still docent change enything because floyd never fought them so no one knows if he would have won.

I suggest you use something other than IE so you can actually see the amount of red squiggly lines under your posts.

P4p Floyd is #1, Pacquiao is third or so. He lost to Marquez last November.

[MRBOOMER]

If I am dumb then you must be dumbest person that ever lived

Pac beat Marquez all three times FACT,he did not struggle with Mosley unless you mistook Pac for mosley when you watched the fight.

He lost the first morrales fight and won the other two convincingly.

But that still docent change enything because floyd never fought them so no one knows if he would have won.

Floyd didn't fight Shane I remember paying for that fight I swear must of been fake like the vietnam war

[combatron]

floyd has been ducking live opponents , this is the only way floyd can fight them in fantasy land

[djtmal]

ODH and shane had a chance to fight floyd, they didn't. Floyd wasn't money then, he was just a well respected highly regarded boxer with little fan base. Too much risk, not enough reward.

They chose not to fight Floyd. Had they, they would lose IMO.

big dunn, with all due respect...in 1999-2000...floyd mayweather jr., wasn't even a choice, for shane mosley, or oscar de la hoya, but if you feel, that a 130 lb. floyd mayweather jr., was this biiiig one-punch ko artist, or biiig threat to either one of those guys, or even pernell whitaker, felix trinidad, fernando vargas, ike quartey, etc. knock ya self out...you see floyd mayweather jr., never bothered to call out any of those welterweights in 1999, or 2000, wonder why (lol)...

in 2000, shane mosley, and oscar de la hoya, did the smartest thing they could do at that time...they chose to fight each other, because each were the biggest threats to each other, for the biggest reward, and both were at the top of the p4p lists...imho, if the 130 lb. version of floyd mayweather jr., would have moved up 3 weight classes to face either shane mosley, or oscar de la hoya @ 147 lbs., the versions that fought each other, big dunn, that would have been the equalivalent, of throwing little floyd mayweather jr., to the wolves...

big dunn, floyd mayweather jr.'s braintrust, did the smart thing, by moving little floyd up the weight classes, half-division, by half-division, and waited for shane mosley, and oscar de la hoya, to fight one war too many, by the time it was floyd mayweather jr.'s time to move to the top of boxing...in 2000, no way little floyd mayweather jr. would have stood up, to the heat oscar de hoya, and shane mosley, was dishing out, when they were in their primes in 2000...