Comments Thread For: Photos: Mayweather in Court, Handcuffed, Taken To Jail

[TBOGGS78]

You can make an argument for maybe 52/48 split in favor of Floyd. Solely based on PPV stats. But Manny is more popular worldwide than Mayweather and he sells more tickets. So we're back to 50/50, if we're being real. And 40 million FLAT is a joke and a non-starter in the negotiating table.

I agree ESPN is not a credible source for boxing. But my point was about Stephen A. Smith, who loves Floyd and he won't even back him on the 50/50 renege.

You're all over the place, dude. Don't even try to compare Pacquiao and Mayweather when it comes to charities or their vices. It's not even worth debating.

You make some good points but if 40 million is a joke then let PAC go fight somebody else and make that type of money. Now my only question is who can he possibly make 40 million fighting other then Mayweather? I can't think of one person he could make 40 million fighting.

[DeadLikeMe]

Kind of a bittersweet day in Pacland. Floyd gets locked up, but Forbes calls him the world's highest paid athlete and Kevin Iole puts out a nice summary that clearly shows blame to everyone involved.

[4Corners]

You can make an argument for maybe 52/48 split in favor of Floyd. Solely based on PPV stats. But Manny is more popular worldwide than Mayweather and he sells more tickets. So we're back to 50/50, if we're being real. And 40 million FLAT is a joke and a non-starter in the negotiating table.

I agree ESPN is not a credible source for boxing. But my point was about Stephen A. Smith, who loves Floyd and he won't even back him on the 50/50 renege.

You're all over the place, dude. Don't even try to compare Pacquiao and Mayweather when it comes to charities or their vices. It's not even worth debating.

Pac sells more tickets, but Floyd's tickets cost more, and he generates more ticket revenue still.

Anyways, I hope Floyd fights again this year, wouldn't hold my breath though.

[schizopolis23]

You make some good points but if 40 million is a joke then let PAC go fight somebody else and make that type of money. Now my only question is who can he possibly make 40 million fighting other then Mayweather? I can't think of one person he could make 40 million fighting.

At the end of the day, no one knows what Pacquiao AND Floyd really make. They both strategically inflate and deflate their earnings to the public. You have to ask yourself why is Floyd's disclosed "guarantee" 32 million and Pacquiao's disclosed guarantee only 7 or 8 million? Let's just say narcissistic people want everyone to think they're the bomb, which eventually get them in trouble with the IRS. And other shrewd money people like Arum cleverly lowball their figures to outsmart the IRS.

There are people walking around everyday appearing richer than they actually are, while others appear average, but are in fact rich.

[DeadLikeMe]

At the end of the day, no one knows what Pacquiao AND Floyd really make. They both strategically inflate and deflate their earnings to the public. You have to ask yourself why is Floyd's disclosed "guarantee" 32 million and Pacquiao's disclosed guarantee only 7 or 8 million? Let's just say narcissistic people want everyone to think they're the bomb, which eventually get them in trouble with the IRS. And other shrewd money people like Arum cleverly lowball their figures to outsmart the IRS.

There are people walking around everyday appearing richer than they actually are, while others appear average, but are in fact rich.

So you're just assuming they're committing tax evasion just so you can pretend in your head that Manny makes more because Arum is hiding it better in the fictional scenario you just made up. Take a few steps away from the keyboard man, because you're delusional.

[TBOGGS78]

At the end of the day, no one knows what Pacquiao AND Floyd really make. They both strategically inflate and deflate their earnings to the public. You have to ask yourself why is Floyd's disclosed "guarantee" 32 million and Pacquiao's disclosed guarantee only 7 or 8 million? Let's just say narcissistic people want everyone to think they're the bomb, which eventually get them in trouble with the IRS. And other shrewd money people like Arum cleverly lowball their figures to outsmart the IRS.

There are people walking around everyday appearing richer than they actually are, while others appear average, but are in fact rich.

Your right on with that one. That's kind of what I've been saying about the negotiations you really dont know who's telling the truth because both sides want to portray like the other side is wrong. It basically boils downs to if your a FLOYD fan you think he's right and if your a PAC fan you think he's right but if your simply a BOXING fan you know they're both lieing a little bit.

[schizopolis23]

So you're just assuming they're committing tax evasion just so you can pretend in your head that Manny makes more because Arum is hiding it better in the fictional scenario you just made up. Take a few steps away from the keyboard man, because you're delusional.

I don't think Manny makes more. I don't know who makes more. I just know that earnings of celebrities, star athletes, public figures, etc. that are disclosed to the public are mostly fabricated. You can't be this naive...

If their tax attorneys had their way, they wouldn't want their clients' earnings disclosed at all.

[DeadLikeMe]

I don't think Manny makes more. I don't know who makes more. I just know that earnings of celebrities, star athletes, public figures, etc. that are disclosed to the public are mostly fabricated. You can't be this naive...

If their tax attorneys had their way, they wouldn't want their clients' earnings disclosed at all.

With all their personal business ventures you are correct. But with a PPV event with so many parties involved (HBO, the venue, multiple promotional companies) the numbers you're looking at will be pretty reliable and straightforward. This isn't some fly by night boxing exhibition where they're trying to tear the ring down before the county tax collectors show up.

[schizopolis23]

With all their personal business ventures you are correct. But with a PPV event with so many parties involved (HBO, the venue, multiple promotional companies) the numbers you're looking at will be pretty reliable and straightforward. This isn't some fly by night boxing exhibition where they're trying to tear the ring down before the county tax collectors show up.

Revenue and personal income are totally different. Income disclosed to the public is totally unreliable.

HBO does NOT guarantee fighters their purses for their PPV fights. The promoters guarantee it...and Floyd is his own boss while Golden Boy does all the promotional work. So Floyd literally writes himself a check, but he's taking all the risk, which means he has to cover everything, including what's in that check.

This NY Times article provides a detailed explanationl: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/17/sp...pagewanted=all

With his business model, Floyd is better off NOT sharing PPV percentages at all because those percentages are covering his supposed "guarantee". Hence, why he only offered Pacquiao 40 mil with NO PPV share!!

[DeadLikeMe]

Revenue and personal income are totally different. Income disclosed to the public is totally unreliable.

HBO does NOT guarantee fighters their purses for their PPV fights. The promoters guarantee it...and Floyd is his own boss while Golden Boy does all the promotional work. So Floyd literally writes himself a check, but he's taking all the risk, which means he has to cover everything, including what's in that check.

This NY Times article provides a detailed explanationl: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/17/sp...pagewanted=all

With his business model, Floyd is better off NOT sharing PPV percentages at all because those percentages are covering his supposed "guarantee". Hence, why he only offered Pacquiao 40 mil with NO PPV share!!

I wasn't talking about the public so much as just accounting for the money in general, so I'm not really sure what you're getting at. All the parties involved in these megafights are going to have to report their earnings to the IRS and be accountable for it in one way or another. Concealing tens of millions of dollars from one of these fights to partially avoid taxes would require far too much coordination between competing parties to be pulled of successfully. Also it isn't like Floyd or Manny went to a microphone and said, "I declare I made 80 million in this fiscal year" and people are taking a number and running with it. These are calculations based of gates and PPV sales.