Will Carl Froch always be ranked below Joe Calzaghe because hes been defeated

[IronDanHamza]

What is Roy's problem right now or post Tarver 2? he couldn't take a punch. Calzaghe couldn't punch at that stage so Roy Jones was still a dangerous fighter, how can someone with the handspeed and power of even a diminished Roy Jones be an easier fight than Brian Magee?

I'm just saying people say Froch's resume is better than Calzaghe's and throw names like Taylor, Abraham and Johnson out there while ****ting on Calzaghe's wins, when in reality none of those fighters are that good wins.

Roy's problem when he fought Joe was he was shot and hadn't won a legit fight in around 5 years.

So because Calzaghe couldn't punch it means that Roy Jones was still a dangerous fight?? As if the the only thing that had diminished on Roy was his chin. Again, he hadn't won a legit fight in 4-5 years, the fight was a joke and why you keep brining it up is beyond me. It's probably not in Cazlaghe's Top 10 wins, and that's saying something.

Brian Magee was nothing. But atleast he wasn't shot to pieces to an embarrassing level.

Taylor, Abraham and Johnson aren't amazing wins but they are better than the majority of wins Calzaghe has outside of his Top 3; Kessler, Hopkins and Lacy.

[-Kev-]

Probably not.

This is the same fighter getting stopped in one round by Danny Green.

I also disagree that the current Jones would beat Taylor. But that Danny Green KO was not legit in my eyes, it was an illegal blow to the back of the head.

[SergioMaravilla]

Roy's problem when he fought Joe was he was shot and hadn't won a legit fight in around 5 years.

So because Calzaghe couldn't punch it means that Roy Jones was still a dangerous fight?? As if the the only thing that had diminished on Roy was his chin. Again, he hadn't won a legit fight in 4-5 years, the fight was a joke and why you keep brining it up is beyond me. It's probably not in Cazlaghe's Top 10 wins, and that's saying something.

Brian Magee was nothing. But atleast he wasn't shot to pieces to an embarrassing level.

Taylor, Abraham and Johnson aren't amazing wins but they are better than the majority of wins Calzaghe has outside of his Top 3; Kessler, Hopkins and Lacy.

I saw nothing in that fight, nothing at all that suggests Jones ever has a chance against Calzaghe.

Calzaghe was completely feather fisted, he destroyed Jones in a pure boxing contest, settling the debate once and for all. Jones was 38 years old, Calzaghe was 37

[Barry Halls]

Carl Froch has the chance to exceed Calzaghe, but i think he needs that defining win for it to happen. I don't think any of Froch wins are as good as Kessler and Bernard was for Calzaghe.

[The Tase]

UNDEFEATED RECORDS = SU****IOUSNESS.


"Show me a undefeated fighter & ill show you somebody who hasnt fought anybody."

-legendary trainer whitey bimstein

This is a timeless quote that will always stand the test of time.

Every single undefeated fighter has ASTERISKS on their resume as to why they are undefeated.


EVERY SINGLE GOD DAMN ONE OF THEM.

[IronDanHamza]

I saw nothing in that fight, nothing at all that suggests Jones ever has a chance against Calzaghe.

Calzaghe was completely feather fisted, he destroyed Jones in a pure boxing contest, settling the debate once and for all. Jones was 38 years old, Calzaghe was 37

Roy was actually 40 years old. 40 or 41.

He was also completely and utterly shot, hadn't won a legit fight in 5 years and wasn't in the Top 10 or even close at any weight class.

[SergioMaravilla]

Roy was actually 40 years old. 40 or 41.

He was also completely and utterly shot, hadn't won a legit fight in 5 years and wasn't in the Top 10 or even close at any weight class.

He was ranked the number 6 LHW by the ring. Many picked Jones to win that fight

Bernard Hopkins- Former two-division world champion
Fought Joe Calzaghe on April 19, 2008 and lost by split decision
Fought Roy Jones Jr. May 22, 1993 and lost by unanimous decision

“Jones by unanimous decision based on his speed and power.”

Lennox Lewis- Former heavyweight champion

"Jones has unbelievable speed and Calzaghe's never fought anyone like him. Jones likes it when his opponent comes to him and unfortunately for Calzaghe, that's exactly what he does; comes to his opponent and is right in their face. I pick Jones on points, but I think it’ll be a very close fight."


Jeff Lacy- Former IBF super middleweight champion

Fought Joe Calzaghe March 4, 2006 and lost by unanimous decision

“It’s going to be a hard fight to pick. If Jones doesn't stay on the ropes and give Calzaghe angles and lots of movement I'm going to go with Jones by decision. Roy can't stay on the ropes and give Joe the chance to throw his slapping punches. This is a great fight for Jones to win and setup a big money fight again with Hopkins!”


Glen Johnson- Former IBF, IBO and Ring Magazine light heavyweight champion

Fought Roy Jones September 25, 2004 and won by KO in 9th round

“Roy Jones will win. I believe Calzaghe fights an amateur style. He throws a lot of slappy punches. Roy throws much more meaningful punches. In general, Calzaghe will throw more punches than Roy, but Roy’s will be harder hitting. Unless the judges are blind, they will see that the harder punches make Jones the winner. They should see that Roy Jones’ hard-hitting punches make the difference.”


Vernon Forrest - WBC welterweight champion

“Roy Jones is still the best fighter in my era and still arguably one of the best fighters period. Roy with his speed can match Calzaghe, and he has power. So the power and speed is with Roy. Roy by decision.”



Winky Wright- Former world junior middleweight champion

“I think Roy is going to win. I think that his punches are going to be sharper than Calzaghe’s and I think that Roy is a harder puncher. I think it might go all 12 rounds, but if somebody gets stopped I think its Calzaghe late in the fight.”


Dan Rafael- ESPN.com

“Although Calzaghe is the favorite, I think Jones' style and speed -- he's still fast -- are going to give him problems. I think it will be a tough, close fight but I'm going with the upset special. I like Jones to pull it out on a close decision.”



Gordon Marino- Wall Street Journal

”Jones over Calzaghe. This is a fascinating fight. Jones is still quick and with his awkward style and dangerous punching power is able to freeze very active opponents like Calzaghe. I'm picking Jones by a decision.”


Tim Smith- New York Daily News

“Roy Jones has good power and I think that will offset the volume of punches that Calzaghe throws. Calzaghe has a good chin so I don't see him getting knocked out. I like Jones in a decision.”


Nick Parkinson- Daily Star Sunday

“Just like Bernard Hopkins did against Kelly Pavlik, I expect Roy Jones to find some of his old form in his best performance in a few years against Joe Calzaghe. I think Jones will get on his bike, forcing Calzaghe to hunt him down and giving the Welshman some worrying moments with his fast fists on the counter attack. However, I believe Calzaghe is fresher and will land enough leather to edge a split decision, leading to calls for the pair to do it again, in Wales. Calzaghe on points.”

Bobby Cassidy- Newsday

“I like Roy Jones in the 11th round TKO. Calzaghe does not have the power to keep Jones honest. I think by the second half of the fight Jones will be picking him a part. Calzaghe looked so good against Hopkins because Hopkins didn't have the firepower to slow him down. But Jones has both speed and power. In other fights, Calzaghe has been able to adjust to one of those assets; he won't be able to adjust to both, especially from a fighter like Jones.”

What followed, was one of the most one sided beat-downs ever witnessed on American soil

[Control-]

lol, loads of them picking jones just because he throws more meaningful punches

[RichCCFC]

Look at Taylor and Jones' performances vs Lacy, that should tell you all you need to know.

[RichCCFC]

Roy was actually 40 years old. 40 or 41.

He was also completely and utterly shot, hadn't won a legit fight in 5 years and wasn't in the Top 10 or even close at any weight class.

He was actually 39, you like to twist things your way huh