Im sorry Old school fighters are not automatically the best

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  • FeFist
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    #141
    Originally posted by Paclan
    larry you just said baldomir would beat jake lamotta

    ........

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    • IronDanHamza
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      #142
      Originally posted by larryx2013
      no not at all.but i back up everything i post and you try to insult me for not agreeing with you...hold up let me change my avi to a old ass avi maybe ill get more props here
      Are you embarrassed to admit it or in denial? Because I, and almost everyone else get's the sense you are most likely mentally handicapped.

      And I don't insult you for not agreeing with me. Plenty of great posters who I respect disagree with me and we have great discussions.

      I insult you because you're ignorant and ****** and act like this isn't your first era when your post clearly show that it is.

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      • Glamour Puss
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        #143
        I'm kinda with Larry on this. Granted, there are some truly great fighters from the past like Gene Tunney, a lot of it is nothing but a perpetuation of old timer nostalgia and flat out mythology.

        If you just watch the tapes with the sound off and forget all the "legend" they attach to a lot of these guys you will see strictly with your own two eyes and your own judgment that they're not as "godly" as they're made out to be.

        Joe Louis, Marciano, Henry Armstrong, Floyd Patterson, Foreman all come to mind.

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        • Roman Moreno
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          #144
          Originally posted by Paclan
          He has heart against people he knows he can beat.
          No. Don't be confused by his style, mouth, persona, or career moves. That dude is tough, and has heart. He does, it's a very underrated attribute of his.

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            #145
            I agree with Larry. I think you can only go back so far in history to find fighters that can compete today on a technical level.

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              #146
              I remember someone hounding me to watch Marciano/Charles and then once I finally got around to it I was just like "wtf"...

              I don't even think Marciano could beat Arreola. I wonder just how many of those fights were fixed back then.

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              • Roman Moreno
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                #147
                Originally posted by Jack Ruby
                I'm kinda with Larry on this. Granted, there are some truly great fighters from the past like Gene Tunney, a lot of it is nothing but a perpetuation of old timer nostalgia and flat out mythology.

                If you just watch the tapes with the sound off and forget all the "legend" they attach to a lot of these guys you will see strictly with your own two eyes and your own judgment that they're not as "godly" as they're made out to be.

                Joe Louis, Marciano, Henry Armstrong, Floyd Patterson, Foreman all come to mind.
                A lot of people don't understand skills what are though. Some don't see some fighters subtle skills.

                They will tell you Judah is more skilled than Chavez Sr because he is flashier, got a cuter style. Which is nonsense.

                Judging by what some perceived as skills most will say that Margarito was a bum...You agree?

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                • Paclan
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                  #148
                  A fighter fights. He's not scared to get in that ring with anybody. Why would he be? That's his job.

                  Floyd has not fought any of the guys we wanted him to fight when they were dangerous, and he's not doing anything to get the fight made with Martinez and Pacquiao, or any REAL Jr Middleweight now.

                  come on man why can't you guys be real. Floyd is acting scared as ****. How is this not clear?

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                  • Tamis!
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                    #149
                    Originally posted by Jack Ruby
                    I'm kinda with Larry on this. Granted, there are some truly great fighters from the past like Gene Tunney, a lot of it is nothing but a perpetuation of old timer nostalgia and flat out mythology.

                    If you just watch the tapes with the sound off and forget all the "legend" they attach to a lot of these guys you will see strictly with your own two eyes and your own judgment that they're not as "godly" as they're made out to be.

                    Joe Louis, Marciano, Henry Armstrong, Floyd Patterson, Foreman all come to mind.
                    That's fine and dandy.

                    The problem is it came from Larry, who claims Baldomir would beat Lamotta, that Mosley's LW run is better than Azumah's and sweetpea's career overall, and that Pac and MAB are Morales' best (and prolly only greatest)wins.

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                    • Paclan
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                      #150
                      Maybe floyd isn't scared to fight.

                      but he sure as hell is scared to lose.

                      Floyd NEVER fights somebody he knows he would have trouble with.

                      But ATG's don't cherrypick. They fight EVERYBODY. To prove they're the best.

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