Does a prime George Foreman KO a prime Vitali Klitschko?

[Cardinal Buck]

Yes I'm so uneducated about the sweet science. So he didn't throw straight punches? Have you seen any of Foreman's fights at all? Take a look at the Norton fight - Foreman, in the first alone, threw piston jabs, left uppercuts, straight rights and left and right hooks. He blocked punches and leaned back similar to Ali. Admittedly a bit of a cardinal sin in boxing, but it worked for him.

Now compare that to the Klitschko's jab-straight right. No bodyshots, no hooks, no uppercuts.

Neither Ali or Lyle made him look like a pinata as you call it. Both were equal fights up until both stoppages.

Ali was owning Foreman. I don't know what you're talking about.

Re: Foreman's jab. It was probably the only straight punch he could throw, but he threw it like he had a stick up his ass. This left him wide open for overhand right counters.

Vitali doesn't throw uppercuts well. He does completely shut down opponents without leaving himself vulnerable. That's a foreign concept to George.

[LacedUp]

Ali was owning Foreman. I don't know what you're talking about.

Re: Foreman's jab. It was probably the only straight punch he could throw, but he threw it like he had a stick up his ass. This left him wide open for overhand right counters.

Vitali doesn't throw uppercuts well. He does completely shut down opponents without leaving himself vulnerable. That's a foreign concept to George.

No he wasn't.

Lol, it's not hard to shut down opponents when you are facing albert sosnowski is it? Still took his time.

Foreman beat ATGs in a couple of rounds. In comparison, Vitali lost and struggled with an out of shape Lennox Lewis.

[Poet682006]

Because with most of the klit fans thats the primary reason why posters defend them. Poet has been around long enough to know "era criticism" is not limited to just the klits. This what was said about Larry Holmes reign as well. Is larry holmes northern/eastern european?

You guys just weren't watching the sport then nor do have any knowledge of history. If you knew the above you wouldn't start whining and crying everytime the lack of talent in this era is mentioned.

Ding! Someone who gets it! Notice how they skipped right over my assessment of Wilder? Because it doesn't fit their current strategy of playing the juvenile "I-know-you-are-but-what-am-I?" game :chuckle9: Naturally, since those threads don't involve the Klits, they haven't noticed I make the exact same argument about weakness of era when the subject of Marciano comes up (waits for the screams that "Poet's picking on the white dude again!") :chuckle9:

[billeau2]

Try spelling correctly so somebody knows what the hell you're talking about. That said, I do whatever I damn well please. You're not clever even though it's clear you think you are. You are just a hating douchebag.

So you did get my meaning in the post then? Good.

[billeau2]

Garbage in terms of skill set, yes. His 40-0 was mostly based on fighting cans because he had a limited amateur career, hence the shi tty skillset.

Buck I like you....Why don't you shut it? you habitually make some decent observations and often enough point out logical fallicy. Don't be pot calling kettle black here. You are talking about a man who was an apex predator when the other predators were also apex level. You may think he is garbage but saying this and disregarding his victories is absurd. Grow up don't be an idiot....Please

[billeau2]

70% BS!!!!

Foreman was 5-4 in title fights while Vitali is 15-2.

You draw your own conclusion.

Lyle, Ali Frazier, Norto= royalty

One fought royalty the other fights ****....Little details have large consequence grasshopper

[Cardinal Buck]

No he wasn't.

Lol, it's not hard to shut down opponents when you are facing albert sosnowski is it? Still took his time.

Foreman beat ATGs in a couple of rounds. In comparison, Vitali lost and struggled with an out of shape Lennox Lewis.

Add Lewis to the list of people who would own Foreman.

Also, Foreman didn't beat ATG's in plural. I know of one, single, ATG he beat who happened to also be severely undersized. And I know of one ATG and another so-so fighter who humiliated him in the 70s.

[billeau2]

Wilder is a bronze medalist. that means squat. he's also a bum. Tony thompson, aerreola, and bryant jennings are all better than him and they are not great. Povetkin was a gold medalist-he isn't much better.

The fact is the division is at one of its weakest points in history. Haye and ADamek have been the 2 most worthy challengers in recent years and they are blown up crusierweights.

Wlad is a 1st ballot hof'er no doubt. Vitali doesn't deserve HOF IMO but he will get in. That doesn't make their challenegrs any better than they are-putrid.

Not to mention the state of Olympic boxing as compared to when George won a metal. The olympics today are not what they were back in the day.

[Cardinal Buck]

Not to mention the state of Olympic boxing as compared to when George won a metal. The olympics today are not what they were back in the day.

You don't know what you're talking about. The superheavy ams from the last Olympics were no joke. Camarelle was one of the best ever.

[Drunken Cat]

Wilder is a modern version of George Foreman. Parallels him perfectly.

That comment is so ****** as to not even warrant a response.