Does a prime George Foreman KO a prime Vitali Klitschko?

[Poet682006]

Uh huh, and why is that?

Roy Jones is my favorite fighter and SRL is in my top 5.

Next........

Right.....and you're Santa Claus too :cool9:

[Poet682006]

Oh, me too, me too and I'm using my common sense too

Nuthugger logic does not equal "common sense". Truth is, you wouldn't know common sense if it bit you on the ass and took out a 20 pound chunk

[Weltschmerz]

Nuthugger logic does not equal "common sense". Truth is, you wouldn't know common sense if it bit you on the ass and took out a 20 pound chunk

Good too see you keeping your posts objective

[A_Jeffrey]

More like it's the objective opinion of damn near every respected boxing expert out there.

Sorry, but people who actually know boxing don't evaluate talent in a division based on the number white Europeans in the rankings like you and your ilk do.

so it looks like your boxing "expertise" is based on race of a fighter.
According to your logic the less white ppl there are in the HW division the better the division is, so the modern HW sucks, cause best fighters these days happen to be white, however, in your little mind a white guy can't be better then a black guy lol
Hmm.. That's a very credible and objective opinion. Probably based on the movie naked gun where he says:"All I know is never bet on the white guy".
We need more boxing experts like you lol

[GeneralZod]

lol.

I have none of that. I support the Klitschko's because they are great champions, simply.

The haters have a lot of hating still to do

Vitali's a great champion? He hasn't fought in two years and likely is dropping the belt for his political run. Wlad's never beaten a no. 1 contender because it's always been Vitali. Pretty big problem going on there.

[Poet682006]

so it looks like your boxing "expertise" is based on race of a fighter.
According to your logic the less white ppl there are in the HW division the better the division is, so the modern HW sucks, cause best fighters these days happen to be white, however, in your little mind a white guy can't be better then a black guy lol
Hmm.. That's a very credible and objective opinion. Probably based on the movie naked gun where he says:"All I know is never bet on the white guy".
We need more boxing experts like you lol

Except that rather than an objective opinion you have a load of bull**** based on the afore mentioned "I-know-you-are-but-what-am-I?" routine you went into earlier that, as I said, most people (but obviously not YOU) got past when they were in kindergarten.

Now, my estimation of their talents has nothing to do with their skin color because if you had bothered to poke your fool head into the Deontay Wilder thread you have seen me post that I wasn't impressed with him either. I'm not impressed with any of today's Heavies. Black, white, Euro, American, doesn't matter: They all stink.

See that's the thing: Whereas someone of your ilk wouldn't have anything to do with the Klits if they were black American fighters, I would still see them as non-ATGs dominating a crap division. Their ethnicity and nationality wouldn't matter one damn bit. But it sure would to you.

[Cardinal Buck]

It's funny to me how old timers like to hark on "skills" over "athleticism" as a go to for why older fighters would win, but completely suspend this belief when it comes to a young George Foreman. Foreman was garbage. He had an embarrassing skill set. His success in the 70s was based on overwhelming smaller men with physicality. Vitali would land right hands on Foreman at will and mop the floor with him.

[GeneralZod]

It's funny to me how old timers like to hark on "skills" over "athleticism" as a go to for why older fighters would win, but completely suspend this belief when it comes to a young George Foreman. Foreman was garbage. He had an embarrassing skill set. His success in the 70s was based on overwhelming smaller men with physicality. Vitali would land right hands on Foreman at will and mop the floor with him.

A guy who went 40-0 with almost all Knockouts with wins over Joe Frazier, Kenny Norton, and Ron Lyle and actually beat a universal heavyweight champion that put down Muhammad Ali was garbage? Ok then.

[Cardinal Buck]

A guy who went 40-0 with almost all Knockouts with wins over Joe Frazier, Kenny Norton, and Ron Lyle and actually beat a universal heavyweight champion that put down Muhammad Ali was garbage? Ok then.

Garbage in terms of skill set, yes. His 40-0 was mostly based on fighting cans because he had a limited amateur career, hence the shi tty skillset.

[Weltschmerz]

Vitali's a great champion? He hasn't fought in two years and likely is dropping the belt for his political run. Wlad's never beaten a no. 1 contender because it's always been Vitali. Pretty big problem going on there.

You can't deny the fact that what they achieved is unique and unprecedented in HW history.