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  • #51
    Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
    Because a failed application is the same as a fight you fail to win.

    Neither belong on your resume.

    Seems more logical a comparison to being a supervisor at a failing company considering you have to be originally hired to gain that kind of job.

    When you fail to win a fight, it's essentially the same as failing to be hired for the job you're looking to attain.

    And again, neither belong on your resume.
    To you maybe. To me applying for a job & not getting transferred to boxing would look like like the Floyd-Winky fight negotiation. Or Pacman-Floyd so far. If you fight someone, it belongs on your resume. Because it happened.

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    • #52
      To me it's about how you perform and against whom/when/where.
      So along those lines a very good performance against an ATG is worth something even if you do lose.

      Just looking at who you fought, or just at who you beat is too simple of an approach in my opinion.

      Oscars resumé looks extraordinary if you only go by who you fought.
      And jmm fights with Pacquiao are some of the performances i judge highest when evaluating his career. So they DO count for something.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by Harry Balls View Post
        To me it's about how you perform and against whom/when/where.
        So along those lines a very good performance against an ATG is worth something even if you do lose.

        Just looking at who you fought, or just at who you beat is too simple of an approach in my opinion.

        Oscars resumé looks extraordinary if you only go by who you fought.
        And jmm fights with Pacquiao are some of the performances i judge highest when evaluating his career. So they DO count for something.
        Marquez is a perfect example. According to my bwoy Iron Dan, those 3 fights, (or at least the last 2) should be excluded from his resume. Which is preposterous IMO. Those fights are career defining fights. They look better on Marquez's resume than they do on Pacman's as a matter of fact. (Well to me anyway).

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        • #54
          Originally posted by Bushbaby View Post
          To you maybe. To me applying for a job & not getting transferred to boxing would look like like the Floyd-Winky fight negotiation. Or Pacman-Floyd so far. If you fight someone, it belongs on your resume. Because it happened.
          Oh, that's a pretty ****** way to look at it.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by Bushbaby View Post
            Marquez is a perfect example. According to my bwoy Iron Dan, those 3 fights, (or at least the last 2) should be excluded from his resume. Which is preposterous IMO. Those fights are career defining fights. They look better on Marquez's resume than they do on Pacman's as a matter of fact. (Well to me anyway).
            I think if you perform well and give a tough fight it can be considered. I.e Cotto's performance against Mayweather.

            But clear loss's I don't put on a resume.

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            • #56
              Castillo gets credit for beating floyd in the first fight, and witaker gets credit for beating Chavez.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                I think if you perform well and give a tough fight it can be considered. I.e Cotto's performance against Mayweather.

                But clear loss's I don't put on a resume.
                This is a pretty ****** change up. See how that sounds?? Now tough losses should be considered?? Like I originally said, it's how you choose to look at it. A job you never had is not the same as losing, saying so is ****** to me.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by Bushbaby View Post
                  This is a pretty ****** change up. See how that sounds?? Now tough losses should be considered?? Like I originally said, it's how you choose to look at it. A job you never had is not the same as losing, saying so is ****** to me.
                  Not really.

                  It's obvious a fighter get's a degree of credit for giving a good showing especially when he's not supposed to. I've stated that on many occasions especially after the Cotto-Mayweather fight.

                  But, if you lose a fight clearly then why would that be on your resume?

                  It makes no sense.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                    Not really.

                    It's obvious a fighter get's a degree of credit for giving a good showing especially when he's not supposed to. I've stated that on many occasions especially after the Cotto-Mayweather fight.

                    But, if you lose a fight clearly then why would that be on your resume?

                    It makes no sense.
                    I was never clear on the losses part. You were. Now you've changed your stance which coincidentally is exactly the same stance I always had. The nature of the loss has to be taken into consideration. It's not like I said Gatti getting splattered into oblivion was a special part of his resume.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by Chups View Post
                      As a rule I think Official results should be accepted if it's a close fight and not accepted if it's a robbery. Roy Jones won the Gold Medal and Sta. Cruz over Casa....etc....etc.....
                      I personally accept whatever I scored. I dont see how you can accept something you didn't see. At the same time I dont call fights robberies if they were close

                      For example I consider Castillo to have beaten Mayweather in the first fight but I would never say he got robbed.

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