Is it OK To Give Fighters Credit On Their Resume When robbed?

[Toyman]

FACTS:

-Marquez is 0-1-2 vs Pacquiao

-In their last fight, Marquez was OUT PUNCHED & OUT LANDED BY Pacquiao tracked by compubox numbers.

add the fact that marquez face looked worse for the wear, you have what clearly was a correct score. A Pacquiao win. We have video of the fight. Its quite clear the video back up the facts INSTEAD OF YOUR HATE FOR PAC giving every benefit of the doubt to Marquez.

As for you morons referencing the clottey fight, you might have a point had clottey not been also OUT PUNCHED AND OUT LANDED by pac in that fight.

The only problem i have with this post is that you have marquez 0-1-2 vs Pacquiao. That is indeed a fact, but one which needs an asterisk as Judge Burt Clements clearly admitted to the entire world that he messed up his scorecard, which means that pacquiao would have won had he scored it right.


If there is one fight that should have its result changed, its Pac-Marquez 1 - this is not a matter of interpretation - its an admission from the judge himself that he scored it wrong.

Once marquez gets into the hall of fame, his record vs pac should read 0-2-1* with the * clearly explaining how pacquiao was robbed in the first fight as the judge himself admitted, meaning in reality marquez is 0-3.


Otherwise, I agree with all your other points - Pac threw more, landed more and did more damage than marquez. Marquez' face is a testament to all of that.

[New England]

Lewis was much more robbed against Holyfield on a much bigger stage

then Lil Marquez and Lil Pacquaio


anyone who thinks the Marquez Pac robbery is 'the same level' as lewis holyfield probably never watched a heavyweight fight once in their lives

what are you even talking/rambling about?

[IronDanHamza]

If it's clear as day that the fighter won the fight than obviously, yes.

In obvious cases like Chavez-Whitaker, Ramirez-Whitaker and Harold Johnson-Willie Pastrano.

The obviously they get full credit for the win.

[The Tase]

Boxing isnt scored on how your face looks after a fight nor what COMPUBOX says as many here like to throw around.

of course it is. that's part of the conjecture, the analysis. How many times have you heard on boxing telecasts (ive heard lamps say it several times) that cuts, bleeding noses, swelling, how marked up your face is plays into the mind of the judges.

as it should. along with ring generalship, clean punches landed, aggression among other things.

WHY DO YOU THINK REFEREES SAY TO JUDGES AND FIGHTER WHETHER A CUT WAS CAUSED BY A PUNCH OR HEADBUTT?

If you analyzed every single boxing match throughout history, the boxer with more messed up face usually lost. not always but usually. I bet the % is very high.

Of course it plays into scoring. Its only normal. Only natural. Primal. Innate.

If person A fought person B, and person A won. What's the more likely? Person B face is more messed up than person A or the other way around.

We have all heard the old phrase "what happened to your face?"

"you should see the other guy..."


Of course it plays into scoring.

[TheHayeMaker]

what are you even talking/rambling about?

I'm rambling about how 90% of people you guys think are 'smart' are actually ******s who only watched boxing after 2004+.

Trust me 90% of the people posting and spamming these forums never watched Tyson Ruddock.

Lewis Golota

etc
They only watched pacquaio floyd marquez (lightweight) fights

I'm just pointing out certain threads on this particular site need to be taken with a grain of salt

because every site have it's trend

This site tends to lean heavily towards the light weights and Pac Floyd subjects

the 'other site' tends to lean heavily towards Euros-Past HW'S-Klithsckos-supermiddle weight subjects

So people putting Marquez Pacquaio in the same 'page' as Lewis Holyfield obviously did not ****ing watch Lewis Holyfield

[elfag]

Marquez beat the breaks off of Pac. Any rational fan has Pac no higher than #3 p4p after his loss to JMM and his demonstrated inferiority to Money Mayweather.

[New England]

I'm rambling about how 90% of people you guys think are 'smart' are actually ******s who only watched boxing after 2004+.

Trust me 90% of the people posting and spamming these forums never watched Tyson Ruddock.

Lewis Golota

etc
They only watched pacquaio floyd marquez (lightweight) fights

I'm just pointing out certain threads on this particular site need to be taken with a grain of salt

because every site have it's trend

This site tends to lean heavily towards the light weights and Pac Floyd subjects

the 'other site' tends to lean heavily towards Euros-Past HW'S-Klithsckos-supermiddle weight subjects

So people putting Marquez Pacquaio in the same 'page' as Lewis Holyfield obviously did not ****ing watch Lewis Holyfield

what the hell does that have to do with what i wrote?

[4Corners]

Yes. Only if it's a general consensus that the fighter won the fight. Whitaker-Chavez is a good example of a big fight where most feel Whitaker won and he pretty much does get his due for that fight, rightfully so.

Marquez pretty much gets credit for beating Pac at least once as well.

[WitherGlove]

This.

you forgot Abril

[Bushbaby]

Sounds like in your opinion, resume is who you beat, to me it's who you fought.

If you were a supervisor at a failing company, on your resume when you put supervisor history, you are correct.