Comments Thread For: Schaefer on Mayweather's Options, a Pacquiao Deal, Arum

[I Love Jesus!]

That's why it's seen as another duck move by the mainstream media. Floyd has been looking like a clown since that insulting offer. Hagler and Wilbon must be puking every time they're reminded of it. It's embarrassing.

Hagler would pimp slap Floyd for being so greedy.

[Eliq20]

If Fraud isn't going to fight Manny, then he need to fight SERIGIO MARTINEZ!!! All those other guys are a joke. I think Khan foot and hand speed would make a good fight too. Screw all the other names. Manny or Sergio!!!!!! Make it happen guys.

[Eliq20]

Why didn't Schaeffer mention a potential fight with Sergio Martinez. Why didn't the interviewer ask about Sergio. Floyd said he would entertain Martinez. That fight will be bigger than anyone of the names Schaeffer mentioned. LMAO.

That's what I'm asking. Why they don't call out Sergio??? The reporters never ask them the tough questions. Sergio is a star and they are really scared of him. That's why they never say his name. If its not Manny then it should be Sergio!!!

[elfag]

Arum wont release his full Pac numbers because he doesnt want Pac to see how badly he has been ripping him off all of these years. Hell he doesnt even want Pac to have an independent audit. I wonder why.

[tomhawq]

If Fraud isn't going to fight Manny, then he need to fight SERIGIO MARTINEZ!!! All those other guys are a joke. I think Khan foot and hand speed would make a good fight too. Screw all the other names. Manny or Sergio!!!!!! Make it happen guys.

that's exactly what i said in my previous post. if you want none of pac and it's making your lives miserable defending the indefensible, fight martinez. simple as that.

martinez would bow down to whatever mr expiration demands. seems clear that it's not about pbf challenging himself and be grateful about the challenge. it's more like, "you idiots should be grateful i'm even considering it, i'm giving you all favors. you should grab it. i want none of that challenge bs."

so why bother with all the bs? if you're not up to the challenge of fighting pacman, fight someone else.

[ADP02]

To your second paragraph - you won't be able to locate any post that ive mad esaying that only mayweather was generating the revenue. I've always said that its a team effort. Again, you can't do big numbers of that nature with just one star - which is why I think Mayweather/Pacquiao should be a even split. Manny draws as much interest in this fight as Floyd does. What I will say though, and this is something that cant be disputed, is that Floyd does take home more income than Pacquiao in fights.

I was just making a statement .... I didn't say that you did or you didn't say that.

If you believe that they both deserve 50/50 then I guess you are also in agreement that Floyd's demand is way out of line? How can Floyd demand all the PPV money. What this fight will generate is not because of Floyd and not because of Manny .... its because people want to see them fight each other. So for Floyd to just bring up past fights and how much he generated should not be the end all.

Also, Manny agreed to OST testing. As we all know, that was a HUGE roadblock. Taking that compromise into account, Floyd should be willing to do some compromise of his own.

[Spoon23]

The most fair solution is 45-45 with the winner getting 10. As they say, to the winner goes the spoils. Besides, Mayweather is a ******** man, Why won't he take the 45-45 10 deal? Why won't he bet on himself?

Pay Per View

Once again, if u run the #'s, you'll see Pac has generated more! If anything Pac is being generous by demanding a 50/50 split or better yet 45/45 with the winner getting 55.
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2009
1.Pacquiao-Cotto...............1.25M PPV ($70M).......($8.85M gate -crowd:15,930)
2.Mayweather-Marquez.......1.05M PPV ($52M).......($6.81M gate -crowd:13,116)
3.Pacquiao-Hatton..............850K PPV ($45M)........($8.83M gate -crowd:16,262)

2010
1.Mayweather-Mosley.........1.4M PPV ($78.3M)......($11.03M gate -crowd:15,117)
2.Pacquiao-Margarito..........1.15M PPV ($64M).......($5.4M gate -crowd:40,154)
3.Pacquiao-Clottey.............700K PPV ($35.3M)......($6.36M gate -crowd:41,843)

2011
1.Pacquiao-Marquez............1.41M PPV ($77.6M*)....($11.65M gate -crowd:16,389)
2.Mayweather-Ortiz............1.25M PPV ($78.4M)......($9M gate -crowd:14,687)
3.Pacquiao-Mosley..............1.1M~ PPV ($66M)........($8.88M gate -crowd:16,412)

*1.41M PPV x $54.95...PPV gross will be more taking into account HD buys at $64.95
~some reports have Pac-Mosley doing 1.3M PPV buys, including on the Ring website & Wikipedia


Crowds

2011
Pacquiao v Mosley.............16,412 (MGM Grand, Las Vegas)
Pacquiao v Marquez...........16,389 (MGM Grand, Las Vegas)
Mayweather v Ortiz............14,687 (MGM Grand, Las Vegas)

2010
Pacquiao v Clottey.............41,843 (Cowboys Stadium, Texas)
Pacquiao v Margarito..........40,154 (Cowboys Stadium, Texas)
Mayweather v Mosley.........15,117 (MGM Grand, Las Vegas)

2009
Pacquiao v Hatton.............16,262 (MGM Grand, Las Vegas)
Pacquiao v Cotto...............15,930 (MGM Grand, Las Vegas)
Mayweather v Marquez.......13,116 (MGM Grand, Las Vegas)







Highest Paid Athlete from FORBES:

In 2011: Pacquiao is No. 25..... Mayweather out from Top 50.
In 2010: Pacquiao is No. 24..... Mayweather out as he didn't have a fight.
http://www.batangastoday.com/50-high...-forbes/13878/

OSCAR DE LA HOYA HIGHEST GUARANTEE WAS $33M...

Is Mayweather going to get a Guarantee of $50M by fighting opponent not Named Manny Pacquiao???? Certainly NOT... Not even $40M

You guys get the picture. it really is a 50/50 fight.

[ADP02]

Pay Per View

Once again, if u run the #'s, you'll see Pac has generated more! If anything Pac is being generous by demanding a 50/50 split or better yet 45/45 with the winner getting 55.
__________________


2009
1.Pacquiao-Cotto...............1.25M PPV ($70M).......($8.85M gate -crowd:15,930)
2.Mayweather-Marquez.......1.05M PPV ($52M).......($6.81M gate -crowd:13,116)
3.Pacquiao-Hatton..............850K PPV ($45M)........($8.83M gate -crowd:16,262)

2010
1.Mayweather-Mosley.........1.4M PPV ($78.3M)......($11.03M gate -crowd:15,117)
2.Pacquiao-Margarito..........1.15M PPV ($64M).......($5.4M gate -crowd:40,154)
3.Pacquiao-Clottey.............700K PPV ($35.3M)......($6.36M gate -crowd:41,843)

2011
1.Pacquiao-Marquez............1.41M PPV ($77.6M*)....($11.65M gate -crowd:16,389)
2.Mayweather-Ortiz............1.25M PPV ($78.4M)......($9M gate -crowd:14,687)
3.Pacquiao-Mosley..............1.1M~ PPV ($66M)........($8.88M gate -crowd:16,412)

*1.41M PPV x $54.95...PPV gross will be more taking into account HD buys at $64.95
~some reports have Pac-Mosley doing 1.3M PPV buys, including on the Ring website & Wikipedia


Crowds

2011
Pacquiao v Mosley.............16,412 (MGM Grand, Las Vegas)
Pacquiao v Marquez...........16,389 (MGM Grand, Las Vegas)
Mayweather v Ortiz............14,687 (MGM Grand, Las Vegas)

2010
Pacquiao v Clottey.............41,843 (Cowboys Stadium, Texas)
Pacquiao v Margarito..........40,154 (Cowboys Stadium, Texas)
Mayweather v Mosley.........15,117 (MGM Grand, Las Vegas)

2009
Pacquiao v Hatton.............16,262 (MGM Grand, Las Vegas)
Pacquiao v Cotto...............15,930 (MGM Grand, Las Vegas)
Mayweather v Marquez.......13,116 (MGM Grand, Las Vegas)







Highest Paid Athlete from FORBES:

In 2011: Pacquiao is No. 25..... Mayweather out from Top 50.
In 2010: Pacquiao is No. 24..... Mayweather out as he didn't have a fight.
http://www.batangastoday.com/50-high...-forbes/13878/

OSCAR DE LA HOYA HIGHEST GUARANTEE WAS $33M...

Is Mayweather going to get a Guarantee of $50M by fighting opponent not Named Manny Pacquiao???? Certainly NOT... Not even $40M

You guys get the picture. it really is a 50/50 fight.

Max Kellerman said this yesterday. If we were to find out that Manny generated more money, Floyd would have never gone for anything less than 50%

and I agree!

[WESS]

I was just thinking the same thing stuck on ****** trapped in last week.

awwww you two alts/trolls are so cute. lol

[jcpryor]

I was just making a statement .... I didn't say that you did or you didn't say that.

If you believe that they both deserve 50/50 then I guess you are also in agreement that Floyd's demand is way out of line? How can Floyd demand all the PPV money. What this fight will generate is not because of Floyd and not because of Manny .... its because people want to see them fight each other. So for Floyd to just bring up past fights and how much he generated should not be the end all.

Also, Manny agreed to OST testing. As we all know, that was a HUGE roadblock. Taking that compromise into account, Floyd should be willing to do some compromise of his own.

Of course Floyd's 40 million dollar flat rate offer is ridiculous. His stance on that subject has changed, as well. I specifically remember him saying that he offered Manny 40 million "and we didn't even get into the ppv side", then he said "40 million is what your getting, take it or leave it", and now apparently he's looking for a 60/40 split. I'm not really sure what his actual stance is. What I do know is that his stance on the split has changed ever since Manny came out and said he'd take less money to fight Mayweather. I personally believe that Floyd is positioning himself to make a little more than Pacquiao if they ever do negotiate. Either way this whole back and forth between the two camps is tiring.

To your second point - If Manny would have agreed to the original 14 day cut off offer that Mayweather asked for then the fight would have already happened. Everything was agreed to in the original negotiations except for drug testing.