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  • #51
    Floyd has said he woukd fight toe to toe in all of his fights recently. Cotto is just excellent at cutting the ring off. To say floyd ourposely let cotto tee off on him is ridiculous. He won the fight clearly. No need to give him that much more credit.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by machotime View Post
      I was interesting to see how compubox didn't account for numerous punches landed by Cotto.

      That said, Mayweather was very uncomfortable in there. Particularly when he was hit by a clean left hook in the 5th round, he had a look of concern like "oh shyt I'm in a real fight".
      No question.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by WESS View Post
        I guess you missed the entire pre-fight build up where Floyd stated over and over how he would give the fans what they wanted and fight toe to toe to make it exciting.

        If you you missed the actual fight too, that is exactly what he did. Only in the later rounds is when he stopped fighting Cotto's fight which led to Floyd taking complete control and ultimately rocked Cotto to win a 12 round UD. I had it 117-111. Cotto won rounds 2, 6, and 8.

        You should really watch the fight when you get a chance... it was good and even better live.
        Your rationale presents an illogical explanation to the decreased connect percentage. You're saying that bc Mayweather fought toe-to-toe he couldnt connect as much... makes no sense. He didnt connect as much bc Cotto gave him problems. Cotto made Floyd uncomfortable, it was written all over his face.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by -Antonio- View Post
          Floyd has said he woukd fight toe to toe in all of his fights recently. Cotto is just excellent at cutting the ring off. To say floyd ourposely let cotto tee off on him is ridiculous. He won the fight clearly. No need to give him that much more credit.
          I always thought this would be critical in the fight. Cotto cut off the ring but, unlike Hatton, who just charged and sort of leaned on Mayweather, he stood his ground, gained leverage and unloaded on Floyd... epic fight

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          • #55
            Miguel, if you read this, hold your head up! its not the end, you had em`, no one else can say that... You never know,u might get the rematch...

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            • #56
              floyd was throwing alot of pitty-pat keep busy punches(alot like mosley does), probabley what lowered his connect % the most

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              • #57
                Cotto did what Castillo did to Floyd back in 2002. The difference being of course that this version of Floyd has slowed down considerably compared to Floyd at 135.

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                • #58
                  whether floyd purposely fought a tougher fight than he needed to or not, there's no denying that when he was boxing cotto from the outside, cotto was getting demolished. it wasnt just in the final rounds that floyd boxed him from the outside. he did it intermittently throughout the fought. in all those instances where he was fight in the middle of the ring, cotto by far came out the worse of it.

                  the brawling and fighting on the inside wasnt all cotto either...floyd usually landed more or as many as cotto did in those instances. cotto did land some flush shots but the majority of them were blocked, partially blocked, or missed outright. watching some of those exchanges on slow-mo and you'll see what i mean. there were a lot of exchanges where cotto threw 10 punches and landed nothing.

                  all in all, floyd fought cottos fight. whether he did it willingly or not doesnt really matter cuz he still did it and beat him regardless. in those instances where he fought a style more to his liking, he was destroying cotto...especially in that 12th round. after seeing the final round, lemme ask you guys this...if it went another round or two, would cotto have survived? floyd fought cottos fight but it was cotto who tired first and started getting the worse of it after round 8. floyd may not have won as impressively as some people would have liked but cotto didnt win many rounds against him. floyd fought cotto's fight and still won. i dont really see why it matters whether he did it willingly or not. obviously he's going to say he did it on purpose, i dont think him nor any other boxer would claim otherwise.

                  as for his lower than usual connect %, that tends to happen when you're brawling on the inside or against the ropes...you're never going to land a high % in that situation regardless of who you are.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by danktrees View Post
                    whether floyd purposely fought a tougher fight than he needed to or not, there's no denying that when he was boxing cotto from the outside, cotto was getting demolished. it wasnt just in the final rounds that floyd boxed him from the outside. he did it intermittently throughout the fought. in all those instances where he was fight in the middle of the ring, cotto by far came out the worse of it.

                    the brawling and fighting on the inside wasnt all cotto either...floyd usually landed more or as many as cotto did in those instances. cotto did land some flush shots but the majority of them were blocked, partially blocked, or missed outright. watching some of those exchanges on slow-mo and you'll see what i mean. there were a lot of exchanges where cotto threw 10 punches and landed nothing.

                    all in all, floyd fought cottos fight. whether he did it willingly or not doesnt really matter cuz he still did it and beat him regardless. in those instances where he fought a style more to his liking, he was destroying cotto...especially in that 12th round. after seeing the final round, lemme ask you guys this...if it went another round or two, would cotto have survived? floyd fought cottos fight but it was cotto who tired first and started getting the worse of it after round 8. floyd may not have won as impressively as some people would have liked but cotto didnt win many rounds against him. floyd fought cotto's fight and still won. i dont really see why it matters whether he did it willingly or not. obviously he's going to say he did it on purpose, i dont think him nor any other boxer would claim otherwise.

                    as for his lower than usual connect %, that tends to happen when you're brawling on the inside or against the ropes...you're never going to land a high % in that situation regardless of who you are.
                    He did it intermittently because he cannot do it for 12 rounds anymore, yes Cotto may have pushed him to be flat footed a couple of times but it is more of Floyd's doing. He was flat footed against Ortiz, and he was "intermittently" flat footed against Mosley....

                    And for the last part, doesn't that make you wonder the big myth about Floyd's great punching accuracy all this years is just that, a BIG MYTH.... Floyd fighting a mobile Cotto only produced 26% percentage for him, Manny fought Cotto the same way and he got 43%...

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by Main Source View Post
                      Exactly. He made it more difficult for himself than necessary. I wish he went for the kill when he staggered Cotto in the 12th - just to shut these haters up.
                      I watched this fight three times, Cotto was not going anywhere, yea he was caught clean but that was it. Cotto was still jumping and coming foward. Mayweather does not take risk.

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