Are Boring American Fighters Killing the Sport?

[Weebler I]

You mean like Ricky Hatton getting a gift against Collazo? Or Jean Pascal getting a favorable stoppage over Dawson? Who exactly doesn't get favorable decisions from time to time. And yes, guys like Dawson are very good.

Dawson lol...only fighter who is actually top class mentioned is Andre Ward and no offence to the man but his fights are boring as ****

As well as being boring, these fighters are all very protected. People make a big deal about Paulie going to the Ukraine and winning - this is what foreign fighters have to do every time and even if they win they still get robbed. Ask Kotelnik, Khan, Kessler, Campillo, Lara, Matthysse, Zaveck, Katsidis they'll tell you, victims all, but mere collateral in the vain search for the next US star to make corrupt old men richer.

It's a good thing there are exciting foreign champions in boxing like Martinez, Pacquiao, Froch, Cotto, Alvarez, Khan, Maidana, Bute etc because left to the US fighters alone, boxing would already be dead and buried.

[MalikKnucklez]

Not the masses. They pay to see a fight not running.

There's a difference between someone out-boxing their opponent and someone running. And a lot of these active boxer-punchers have historically given brawlers who like for their opponent to stand in front of them a hard time. And they have managed to be exciting at the same time. Leonard never stood and "brawled" with a skilled brawler (and the only time he did, he lost), and he's one of the most exciting boxers of all time. If he was active today, a lot of these cats would complain about him being a "runner".

You should know. U watched ur boy Siri get ****d by Gamboa.

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Dawson lol...only fighter who is actually top class mentioned is Andre Ward and no offence to the man but his fights are boring as ****

As well as being boring, these fighters are all very protected. People make a big deal about Paulie going to the Ukraine and winning - this is what foreign fighters have to do every time and even if they win they still get robbed. Ask Kotelnik, Khan, Kessler, Campillo, Lara, Matthysse, Zaveck, Katsidis they'll tell you, victims all, but mere collateral in the vain search for the next US star to make corrupt old men richer.

It's a good thing there are exciting foreign champions in boxing like Martinez, Pacquiao, Froch, Cotto, Alvarez, Maidana, Bute etc because left to the US fighters, boxing would already be dead and buried.

The whole exciting debate is your opinion. As for fighters going overseas there's a reason Americans don't do it, America is the ***ing mecca. Why doesn't Pacquaio fight anywhere but America anymore? Do you see Sergio Martinez ever leaving the states again? The best fighters fight here.

Dawson not being good? Who has he not fought? He's beat everyone in this division. He was well on his way to knocking Pascal out before they stopped that fight. The only guy that's left is Cleverly and I think anyone that has seen him fight knows he really wouldn't be much of a problem for Dawson. You're the first person to ever call a lineal champion, in a decent division like 175 ****ty.

[Uns]

Holding is the problem. There aren't warnings for holding.

It is effective for some, but it totall stops the flow.

If there is less holding then someone is more likely to get hurt and that ctrayes a buzz.

Is there is a pettern of hit, hold, hit, hold, it is boring.

Heck Seth Mitchel VS Whitherspoon was good because they didn't tie up when hurt.

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Holding is the problem. There aren't warnings for holding.

It is effective for some, but it totall stops the flow.

If there is less holding then someone is more likely to get hurt and that ctrayes a buzz.

Is there is a pettern of hit, hold, hit, hold, it is boring.

Heck Seth Mitchel VS Whitherspoon was good because they didn't tie up when hurt.

Yeah, and Mitchell will get destroyed if he doesn't learn how to tie up. Clinching is part of boxing.

[Weebler I]

The whole exciting debate is your opinion. As for fighters going overseas there's a reason Americans don't do it, America is the ***ing mecca. Why doesn't Pacquaio fight anywhere but America anymore? Do you see Sergio Martinez ever leaving the states again? The best fighters fight here.

And with that comes a responsibility, no? I think even the most ardened US boxing fan will admit that reputation for fairness has been badly tarnished in the last couple of years.

It's easy to point at foreign countries and say corruption in boxing happens there too, but two wrongs don't make a right and if we don't have the US doing things fairly we don't have a legitimate sport at all.

As an aside, there are plenty of offers for US fighters to go abroad and make good money. They don't do it and I don't blame them but the sport of boxing is often hurt by the protection of boring local fighters to the detriment of exciting foreign fighters.

Dawson not being good? Who has he not fought? He's beat everyone in this division. He was well on his way to knocking Pascal out before they stopped that fight. The only guy that's left is Cleverly and I think anyone that has seen him fight knows he really wouldn't be much of a problem for Dawson. You're the first person to ever call a lineal champion, in a decent division like 175 ****ty.

I didn't though, I said he was not that good. Of the champs mentioned imo only Andre Ward looks like the long-term future from a competitive perspective but as far as attracting people to the sport? in the next 5 years really I think boxing is looking to the overseas fighters once again.

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What's wrong with that though? If you controlled the fight and have it in the bag why stretch yourself and leave yourself open for bad things to happen. What you consider boring, a lot of us consider being smart in the ring. Anyone can beat anyone now a days, it's survive and move on sport.

Well this is the issue the Klit's have too. They cruise for the KO/TKO but don't go for it now.

It makes a slow pace fight.

[Uns]

Yeah, and Mitchell will get destroyed if he doesn't learn how to tie up. Clinching is part of boxing.

Yes it is true but that is what made the fans enjoy that fight. Head and body movement are keys to avoiding tying up.

Watch Tyson VS Berbick and a few older fights. He was a beast and yes did get held up, but he would hit on the break and be crazy. Activity and unpredictability is exciting.

[D$C]

Wow, no comment on how racially motivated that sounded man.

People say Floyd Mayweather is boring, yet he's the highest selling PPV fighter per fight in history, aside from Mike Tyson.

1. Its not racially motivated, its true. When people listed the boring Americans ITT they are usually African-American. When they list exciting Boxers they are mostly Mexican-American. Its about as racist as saying Mexican's are exciting, Europeans are boring, etc. If he was trying to be racist he probably would have said Black Boxers are boring but thats not true because their is plenty of exciting Black Boxers... Just not in America
2. No one (hardcore fans aside) buys a Floyd PPV for the same reason people bought a Tyson PPV... they only do it in hopes Floyd loses

Me? I gotta respect and admire everyone that does it, "boring" or not

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Broner is exciting when matched up with bums....Kirkland is also a bum....russel jr is a PROSPECT.... and LMAO at cloud the guy who got dominated by a Spanish guy in an uneventful fight

I disagree. I found that it was a beautiful display of devastating boxing against yet another overhyped, unspectacular product of the American hype machine.