Are Boring American Fighters Killing the Sport?

[Snake...]

Because he hadn't become a huge PPV star yet. He still sold 360k with Gatti, 350K with Judah, and 315K with Baldomir, which was very good considering he wasn't a huge draw yet. What are the most PPV's Oscar sold aside from his fight with Floyd....1.4 million against Trinidad. What are Floyds.....1.4 million against Mosley.

On a per fight basis, Tyson was the highest selling, with Floyd in 2nd. Look up the numbers. Did Oscar sell 1.4 million with Mosley???

You could easily say Floyd and Pac, per fight right now, sell more than Oscar did at his peak.

LMAO count up all the PPV's Oscar sold compared to Floyd's and i will guranteee you Floyd won't have more PPV sells...........the biggest Factor in Floyd selling PPV is his fight with Oscar that broke him into the mainstream just like Pac Man

not even a oscar fan but that's the truth

[4Corners]

LMAO count up all the PPV's Oscar sold compared to Floyd's and i will guranteee you Floyd won't have more PPV sells...........the biggest Factor in Floyd selling PPV is his fight with Oscar that broke him into the mainstream just like Pac Man

not even a oscar fan but that's the truth

Do you know what per fight means??? It's the average number of PPV's sold per fight. Oscar had like 19 fights on PPV, Floyd's only had 8, with Cotto being his 9th.

Oscar-Ruelas: 330k
Oscar-Hernandez: 220K
Oscar-Gonzalez: 345k
Oscar-Whitaker: 720k
Oscar-Camacho: 560k
Oscar-Rivera: 240k
Oscar-Chavez II: 525K
Oscar-Quartey: 570k
Oscar-Trinidad: 1.4M
Oscar-Mosley I: 560K
Oscar-Castillejo: 400k
Oscar-Vargas: 935k
Oscar-Campas: 350k
Oscar-Mosley II: 950K
Oscar-Sturm: 380k
Oscar-Hopkins: 1.0M
Oscar-Mayorga: 935k
Oscar-Mayweather: 2.45M
Oscar-Pacquiao: 1.25M

Floyd-Gatti: 360k
Floyd-Judah: 350k
Floyd-Baldomir: 315k
Floyd-De La Hoya: 2.45M
Floyd-Hatton: 920k
Floyd-Marquez: 1.1M
Floyd-Mosley: 1.4M
Floyd-Ortiz: 1.25M

Do the per fight man.....

[Snake...]

Do you know what per fight means??? It's the average number of PPV's sold per fight. Oscar had like 19 fights on PPV, Floyd's only had 8, with Cotto being his 9th.

Oscar-Ruelas: 330k
Oscar-Hernandez: 220K
Oscar-Gonzalez: 345k
Oscar-Whitaker: 720k
Oscar-Camacho: 560k
Oscar-Rivera: 240k
Oscar-Chavez II: 525K
Oscar-Quartey: 570k
Oscar-Trinidad: 1.4M
Oscar-Mosley I: 560K
Oscar-Castillejo: 400k
Oscar-Vargas: 935k
Oscar-Campas: 350k
Oscar-Mosley II: 950K
Oscar-Sturm: 380k
Oscar-Hopkins: 1.0M
Oscar-Mayorga: 935k
Oscar-Mayweather: 2.45M
Oscar-Pacquiao: 1.25M

Floyd-Gatti: 360k
Floyd-Judah: 350k
Floyd-Baldomir: 315k
Floyd-De La Hoya: 2.45M
Floyd-Hatton: 920k
Floyd-Marquez: 1.1M
Floyd-Mosley: 1.4M
Floyd-Ortiz: 1.25M

Do the per fight man.....

the reason he doesn't have more PPV's is because he doesn't fight that often and when he does i'ts not even against the best (pac) (martinez) etc bottom line Oscar is the higher grossing star and Floyd is NOT no matter how you try to spin it

[Snake...]

also another FACT most of the sells may got were due to his opposition's fans like gatti,marquez,hatton,oscar, etc

[Light_Speed]

most if not all african americans are boring inluding that **** dawson. That is why they always get booed. "peeleft:

Bradley, Kirkland, Mitchell, Peterson, Williams, Cloud, Berto, Judah, Broner, Russell Jr.

Name me more exciting mexican americans or puerto rican americans. If you can't do it then get your racist ass out of this thread and out of this forum.

1. Its not racially motivated, its true. When people listed the boring Americans ITT they are usually African-American. When they list exciting Boxers they are mostly Mexican-American. Its about as racist as saying Mexican's are exciting, Europeans are boring, etc.

See the list above.

[4Corners]

the reason he doesn't have more PPV's is because he doesn't fight that often and when he does i'ts not even against the best (pac) (martinez) etc bottom line Oscar is the higher grossing star and Floyd is NOT no matter how you try to spin it

Per fight he beats him, and so does Mike Tyson if you look up Tysons.

When did it become mandatory for Floyd to fight Sergio, and I want that fight as well??? Sergio said he'd fight Pac, someone I'd bet you like, at 150 lbs and Pac straight up said no. So why isn't Pac fighting him???

And both Floyd and Manny are to blame for the fight not happening yet. Only blind and bias fans of both can't recognize this.

You strike me as someone who hasn't been on the sport for awhile with lines like "Floyd has never fought the best". Bottom line, take a look Pac's opposition lately before you trash his. Pac fighting Margarito, Mosley, and Marquez when he did was about as bad as it gets for a guy in his position.

[brettWall]

American boxers nowadays just do enough to win fights. I don't think they even aspire to become as big as Tyson, SLR, etc. You even rarely see them call out fighters they know casuals would be interested in paying for. Most of them see boxing as just another career enough to pay everyday living expenses.

[4Corners]

also another FACT most of the sells may got were due to his opposition's fans like gatti,marquez,hatton,oscar, etc

That's why Floyd out sold him with Mosley, and the most PPV's both sold aside from their fight together was 1.4 million........keep trying.

[Snake...]

That's why Floyd out sold him with Mosley, and the most PPV's both sold aside from their fight together was 1.4 million........keep trying.

all thanks to Oscar......numbers don't lie his PPV sells were a joke compared to Oscar's before there fight...in short OSCAR MADE floyd he is the reason why people know his name in the mainstream and not vice versa

[4Corners]

all thanks to Oscar......numbers don't lie his PPV sells were a joke compared to Oscar's before there fight...in short OSCAR MADE floyd he is the reason why people know his name in the mainstream and not vice versa

Look at Oscar's first 3-4 fights PPV numbers and look at Floyd's before the Oscar fight, pretty similar.

Bottom line, Floyd is still a huge PPV star and on the level of Oscar was in his peak.