Comments Thread For: Ellerbe: Mayweather Will Go Down as Greatest Ever

[tredh]

True. But I think the next fight is where we hold floyd accountable. I'll expand.

Manny refused a ****ty deal, rightfully so. So floyd counters with Cotto, a top 10-12 p4p fighter so he can get paid. Sergio had a fight signed so we give floyd the benefit of the doubt. Now lets say its Nov/Dec. Manny appears to not be interested if you go by Arum.

If floyd fights then, and manny isn't interested, if he doesn't go Sergio or Berto (if he wins) then I agree with you.

The bold is 100% correct. IMO PBF vs Manny ain't ever gonna happen. I'm not so sure PBF vs Martinez will happen either.

Come on Berto? That is the worse fight he could possibly make. PBF vs Berto is the same as Manny vs David Diaz. I would look at the fight like WTF for? I don't care if Berto starches Ortiz in rd1 there is no way PBF vs Berto should be made.

I would rather take the stance of no time like the present to make how I feel known.

[charlieg]

This can be done to anyone's resume. And LOL at alot your reasoning. Pacquiao never beat Marquez in a clear fashion and Manny beat EM after had just got beat by Zahir Raheem, then rematched him a third time which was completely pointless. But again, you can do what you did to anyone's resume.

And for the record, no I don't Floyd is the greatest ever.

I half agree. You can question most boxer resumes. Let's face it, you can't fight great fighters non-stop for your career. You're top 5 says more about you than anything else. Floyd's top 5 SUCK compared to any other major P4P "GOAT" considered boxer. Just think, if Floyd hadn't ducked Cotto, or hadn't ducked prime Mosley, or hadn't ducked Pacquiao, or hadn't ducked [long list of top fighters in their prime in their prime weight class]. No, money May followed the money. Maximum **** for buck. Every decision has a price. He cashed in on his legacy.

[V.WEBB]

I half agree. You can question most boxer resumes. Let's face it, you can't fight great fighters non-stop for your career. You're top 5 says more about you than anything else. Floyd's top 5 SUCK compared to any other major P4P "GOAT" considered boxer. Just think, if Floyd hadn't ducked Cotto, or hadn't ducked prime Mosley, or hadn't ducked Pacquiao, or hadn't ducked [long list of top fighters in their prime in their prime weight class]. No, money May followed the money. Maximum **** for buck. Every decision has a price. He cashed in on his legacy.

Really no point to carry on with you.

[brick wall]

that's not surprising coming from ellerbe...in fact a lot of floyd fanatics here share the same opinion.

[charlieg]

True. But I think the next fight is where we hold floyd accountable. I'll expand.

Manny refused a ****ty deal, rightfully so. So floyd counters with Cotto, a top 10-12 p4p fighter so he can get paid. Sergio had a fight signed so we give floyd the benefit of the doubt. Now lets say its Nov/Dec. Manny appears to not be interested if you go by Arum.

If floyd fights then, and manny isn't interested, if he doesn't go Sergio or Berto (if he wins) then I agree with you.

No, you hold Floyd accountable at the end of his career. He may fight a Berto next, then go on to fight Canelo, Martinez, and Pacquiao. We don't know until he retires. There are big tests for Mayweather out there besides Pacquiao, and that fight does not need to happen for him to really enhance his legacy. Look, if he beats Canelo and Martinez, he'll massively boost his GOAT credentials. If he beats Pacquiao as well, it'd be hard to argue otherwise.

It's there for Mayweather if he wants to go for it. Will he? We'll have to wait and see.

[shade darkar]

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the only thing thats going down as the greatest, is your great big massive nose. biggest shnazz ever!

[The Big Dunn]

The bold is 100% correct. IMO PBF vs Manny ain't ever gonna happen. I'm not so sure PBF vs Martinez will happen either.

Come on Berto? That is the worse fight he could possibly make. PBF vs Berto is the same as Manny vs David Diaz. I would look at the fight like WTF for? I don't care if Berto starches Ortiz in rd1 there is no way PBF vs Berto should be made.

I would rather take the stance of no time like the present to make how I feel known.

Respect your feeling but its hard for me to hold a man accountable for another man's actions.

if the only viable fights for floyd are the #2 and #3 p4p fighters, one who won't accept a deal, the other who is 2 weight classes above, maybe ellerbee has a point.

[bopbopbbe]

In terms of skill...maybe. In terms of resume, not even close.

[The Big Dunn]

No, you hold Floyd accountable at the end of his career. He may fight a Berto next, then go on to fight Canelo, Martinez, and Pacquiao. We don't know until he retires. There are big tests for Mayweather out there besides Pacquiao, and that fight does not need to happen for him to really enhance his legacy. Look, if he beats Canelo and Martinez, he'll massively boost his GOAT credentials. If he beats Pacquiao as well, it'd be hard to argue otherwise.

It's there for Mayweather if he wants to go for it. Will he? We'll have to wait and see.

My point is if tredh wants to not buy ppv's until he gets the fights he wants, I understand that. But not buying this fight, holds floyd and cotto accountable for manny's actions.

Yes, the deal was ****ty. But if you look at my sig, floyd took a ****ty deal to increae his brand. Historically, many fighters have done the same. IMO, manny is no different from them. He'd get even more credit for taking a crap deal and winning.

So if floyd fights in nov/dec, and its not manny or sergio, or a viable opponent, then I think its fair to hold floyd accountable and not buy.

[tredh]

Respect your feeling but its hard for me to hold a man accountable for another man's actions.

if the only viable fights for floyd are the #2 and #3 p4p fighters, one who won't accept a deal, the other who is 2 weight classes above, maybe ellerbee has a point.

I get what you are saying but even as a PBF fan there is no way Manny should have accepted a no ppv money deal. I will just take a wait and see approach if he fights Martinez I will actually try to go to that fight to hell with PPV but if its not Martinez or Manny there is a 99% chance I am not going to buy that PPV. Same goes for Manny as well. I like Bradley but not for $60+. If Manny doesn't fight who I want to see him fight then I am not buying his PPV either. Bradley vs Manny is a better fight than PBF vs Cotto IMO.