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  • bluetuazon
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    #21
    Originally posted by charlieg
    I dunno. Mayweather suffers from Calzaghe syndrome. That '0' is based on too many fights that didn't happen.

    Name Floyd's top 5 wins.

    De La Hoya. That's a good one.

    Hatton. That's a good one although Hatton moved up a weight class for him.

    Corrales. A warrior but a very overrated fighter who was exposed as a bit of a hype job in the fights before his death.

    Castillo. Most of his 70-odd fights were against bums. A vastly overrated fighter.

    Marquez. Forced up 2 weight classes with no preparation, no fights above 135 before fighting at 147. A mismatch, both stylistically and physically.

    Who else? Judah? Please, Kosta Tzyu put that fraud to bed a long, long time ago. Baldomir? Pul-lease.

    That's just not P4P greatest material.

    Ray Leonard; Duran, Hearns, Hagler - already eclipses Floyd and I've just named only 3 guys, even though he lots to one of them.

    Pacquiao; Barrera, Morales, Marquez - all at their prime weights in-or-close-to their primes.

    Cotto is a good opponent, the best since De La Hoya. I'm glad he's taking opponent selection more seriously now. I hope it continues but he's got a bit of work to do before even getting close to being under consideration as potential GOAT material.

    Maybe Floyd will go down as the richest fighter ever, the best paid fighter, the PPV King. That I have a hard time finding fault with. That's not GOAT. They are two different metrics.
    good post!

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    • Check_hooks
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      #22
      ducking and dodging GOAT than yes, absolutely

      But in terms of boxing than hell no, he will be behind Calzaghe

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      • V.WEBB
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        #23
        Originally posted by charlieg
        I dunno. Mayweather suffers from Calzaghe syndrome. That '0' is based on too many fights that didn't happen.

        Name Floyd's top 5 wins.

        De La Hoya. That's a good one.

        Hatton. That's a good one although Hatton moved up a weight class for him.

        Corrales. A warrior but a very overrated fighter who was exposed as a bit of a hype job in the fights before his death.

        Castillo. Most of his 70-odd fights were against bums. A vastly overrated fighter.

        Marquez. Forced up 2 weight classes with no preparation, no fights above 135 before fighting at 147. A mismatch, both stylistically and physically.

        Who else? Judah? Please, Kosta Tzyu put that fraud to bed a long, long time ago. Baldomir? Pul-lease.

        That's just not P4P greatest material.

        Ray Leonard; Duran, Hearns, Hagler - already eclipses Floyd and I've just named only 3 guys, even though he lots to one of them.

        Pacquiao; Barrera, Morales, Marquez - all at their prime weights in-or-close-to their primes.

        Cotto is a good opponent, the best since De La Hoya. I'm glad he's taking opponent selection more seriously now. I hope it continues but he's got a bit of work to do before even getting close to being under consideration as potential GOAT material.

        Maybe Floyd will go down as the richest fighter ever, the best paid fighter, the PPV King. That I have a hard time finding fault with. That's not GOAT. They are two different metrics.
        This can be done to anyone's resume. And LOL at alot your reasoning. Pacquiao never beat Marquez in a clear fashion and Manny beat EM after had just got beat by Zahir Raheem, then rematched him a third time which was completely pointless. But again, you can do what you did to anyone's resume.


        And for the record, no I don't Floyd is the greatest ever.

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        • tredh
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          #24
          Originally posted by Big Dunn
          Probably why you should purchase it.

          LLS Touche' Big Dunn. Its not the fight I want from him though. I can't keep paying and not getting the fights I want to see.

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          • thuggery
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            #25
            yep he's right. 43-0

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            • boxingfan76
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              #26
              greatest cherry picking ducker ever maybe!

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              • Illdil
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                #27
                Yeah Right :lmao1: Floyd is a ATG living legend and will b ranked very high no doubt but not in the conversation of the Greatest! ALI is the Man who holds that title and some say SRR but for me it will always b ALI! Floyd could go down as the most skilled which is a great honor itself.

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                • The Big Dunn
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by tredh
                  LLS Touche' Big Dunn. Its not the fight I want from him though. I can't keep paying and not getting the fights I want to see.
                  True. But I think the next fight is where we hold floyd accountable. I'll expand.

                  Manny refused a ****ty deal, rightfully so. So floyd counters with Cotto, a top 10-12 p4p fighter so he can get paid. Sergio had a fight signed so we give floyd the benefit of the doubt. Now lets say its Nov/Dec. Manny appears to not be interested if you go by Arum.

                  If floyd fights then, and manny isn't interested, if he doesn't go Sergio or Berto (if he wins) then I agree with you.

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                  • PacmanP4PLegend
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP
                    On Tuesday afternoon, pound for pound great Floyd Mayweather Jr. hosted the media in Las Vegas ahead of his May 5th fight with junior middleweight champion Miguel Cotto.

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                    The greatest ever Hell who does he think he's kidding?

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                    • WalkerSmith1921
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                      #30
                      Sugar Ray Robinson will always be the man

                      Originally posted by nycsmooth
                      guess he never heard of Sugar Ray Robinson...FM would'nt b in top 5 WW's...
                      Great response nycsmooth, Sugar Ray Robinson was and will always be the greatest boxer ever!! No one will ever be like Robinson.

                      I like Floyd and he is one of my favorites and will definitely go down as the greatest of this era besides Roy Jones pound for pound in their primes; but as far as greatest ever, that distinction will always be reserved for Walker Smith AKA Sugar Ray Robinson.

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