Freddie Roach is an Overrated Trainer, I agree with Floyd Sr.

[hectari]

he did train james toney so he does know something

James Toney trained himself, don't give credit to Roach man, Roach never MADE Toney.

Roach is only there for strategy he is a good offensive guy but as far as the total package he is the worst defensive strategist among the big name trainers.

[jri9d0]

Bradley is a slick fighter, he is not a mayweather type, he is in the mold of a Hopkins type of crafty and slick.

When he fought Peterson he dominated him with pure boxing and movement. He can brawl and box.

To ask you a question show me a fight when Bradley got dominated in.

This is not about if Bradley has ever been dominated this is about a style of fighting that you claim he has that you think would give Manny problems.

I don't think ANYONE would constitute Bradley as slick based on the Peterson fight.

The man has skill, I will give you that but the basic fundamentals that constitute a "slick" boxer (i.e. footwork, lateral movement, head movement accompanied by a consistent jab) is something we just don't see exhibited by Bradley often enough to label him slick.

Therefore, it would be baseless for Roach to have slick sparring partners for this fight if Bradley isn't considered slick by the general census in the first place.

[#1Assassin]

he did train james toney so he does know something

i cant tell if youre being sarcastic or not.

bill miller taught toney everything he knows, roach was just the guy who took over when their relationship fell apart.

im not saying that hes not a good trainer, toney knows too much boxing to work with someone who isnt. but he knows boxing bcuz of miller, miller made toney. roach didnt add anything he just kept him going.

[black_mamba_fam]

I would personally call Freddie OverExtended instead of overrated (hes taken on too many big name fighters.....Chavez jr,Khan, Pac) he cant give the consistent attention to his fighters they need. So they all suffer.

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

Why you always defending Roach?

I said I have nothing against the man, its just when he told Manny and Buboy they dont need any slick sparring partners because Bradley will just come forward concerned me, That shows where his head is at, maybe he is slipping but everyone knows that Bradley is not a one trick pony, you would expect Roach to know that as well, yet he felt it wasn't necessary to bring in slick boxers for Pacman.

Bradley is has never been beaten up in a fight, he has been knocked down gotten back up and dominated the fight after adjusting. Nobody has ever destroyed this man, Roach better get some slick boxers now or else he will lose.

All Pacmans sparring partners have been slow ass come forward brawlers, so of course he will suck in his fights. When Pacman fought Hatton, Oscar, and Cotto, Freddie Brought in a mainly FAST guys, this was the time when Pacman sparred Amir Khan, Pacmans timing got so good when he sparred fast guys, sow hen you keep giving Pacman slow spar mates his timing is going to be off.

Roach is overrated in my book, I dont hate him and respect his accomplishments he has more accomplishments than the Mayweather trainers.

Your making **** up. Pac spars with all types of fighters in his gym. He has sparred with Linares, Khan, Benavidez Jr....far from "come forward brawlers" like you described.

Look at Pac's resume, it's amazing and one of the most impressive in the game today. The fact the man has moved up in weight and had the success he's had is the main reason they are accusing him of doing PED's.

Taking on Bradley is a much tougher fight than what Mayweather is doing with Cotto. Cotto will be there to be hit, Bradley is a strong fighter who like you said, has never been stopped, is young and in his prime and should give anyone problems.

If you want to overrate Roach that's fine, but you have made no valid points towards your argument. I think you just don't like him or Pac and therefore are discrediting him.

[zab191]

Roach is way over-rated, he has trained Pac and A Mere Con into brawlers not proper boxers. If Con wants to make it big it would be a good idea if he went to Roger.

[FeFist]

He is an overrated and it is not because his fighters have underperformed in their previous fights it is because they are showing the same exact flaws, inability cut off the ring, inability to block an uppercut, inability to fight on the inside.