Freddie Roach is an Overrated Trainer, I agree with Floyd Sr.

[Hougigo]

Why didn't you read it, you have ADD or something?

But the pac fanatics dont see roach as overrated.

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No, because I don't want to read a wall of text where somebody complains about somebody

[AlwaysOnTop]

Bradley absolutely CAN adjust the pace he fights at so I don't know really know how they are supposed to train for that. I guess equal work with both?

Bradley is now a Top Rank employee...he will fight, or should I say, not fight..just like an employee...

[JustinBieberFan]

hmmm am i a trainer?? so who is sr training again??? fighters?? like who??? LOL!! oh hey im out here training a bunch of fighters too!!

roach is training two known fighters,khan and pac..khan got whooped last time and pac lost too...JMM won the fight son you can't deny that..well you seem to be a pacfarrrt so you would hang on pacs nutts no matter what

[hectari]

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No, because I don't want to read a wall of text where somebody complains about somebody

Bro you have a short attention span it only takes 2 to 3 minutes to read haha.

[Xyei]

Everything and everyone is overrated around here.

[hectari]

Feddy's fighters have weak inside game...

Roach still hasn't found a way to keep Manny from falling in on one foot..

They can't fight on the inside or close the distance by cutting off the ring properly against a moving target combined with their lack of defense.

[Shona Boy]

didnt Mayweather Snr ttrain Hatton for the PAc fight... LMAO

[elfag]

Roach was big before Pac, he was already training Toney and worked with DLH before Pac blew up. He would still be a big name without Pac, because he was a big name before Pac. Roach deserves his paydays from the Pac bouts if Pac is also handing out checks to guys like Koncz who do **** all.

Any trainer who trains a real big time guy always gets overrated, to me that is the nature of the business. To me it has nothing to do with the work of that big time guy because a trainer is important and whatever their method it obviously meshes with that big time guy now anybody might be able to do a good job with that guy but would they do as good, hard to say.

Still people always expect that trainer to be able to work miracles and do the same thing with other guys. Even if the guys are nothing like the guy he became known for.

There is no suchthing as a perfect trainer in relation to every guy out there, but for a specific guy I do believe there is a perfect trainer for every guy (as long as the guy is willing to buy in).

Yeah the big time trainers get overbooked and they dont have the time to devote to all of their fighters so Roach and Steward end up training a lot of guys for a fight or two until the fighter realizes they arent high on their priority list and leaves. A lot of guys stuck with the same trainer nearly their whole career and did very well. Calzaghe, Winky, Floyd, Hatton, Vitali ect.

[The Surgeon]

Roach is overrated if u ask me but he is still one helluva trainer, as for Mayweather Snr i think he is beyond wank as a trainer - did u guys See Hatton vs Pac 24/7????

I dont think he's up to snuff. Roger is good but i think Freddie is better, i mean Floyd is - apart from a Special Talent naturally, a really self driven athlete who dictates everything that goes on in his world and fight camp, seems like Uncle Roger just helps out...

I like the look of Cotto's new guy Diaz but its early days yet...

Garcia, again overrated IMO. Though he has a lot going for him too

Richardson i rate, he knows his boxing.

Steward seems like he is not really in it quite the same anymore and is no task master.

Nacho, i rate him highly as a trainer.

[elfag]

didnt Mayweather Snr ttrain Hatton for the PAc fight... LMAO

That and the Paulie M fight. The Paulie M fight, Hatton boxed very well and outboxed Paulie rather than outwrestling him which was impressive. The Pac fight he didnt do anything he was supposed to such as "moving his damn head". He would have had the same end result of both fights if he stayed with Billy Graham though he would have wrestled Paulie M into a decision instead.

Funny was that Billy Graham said hatton was not being himself and stopped talking to him completely after he fired him and that something was up and then we find out later he was a suicidal coke head, so Grahams instincts were right all along.