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  • 4Corners
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    #91
    Originally posted by IronDanHamza
    Why?

    The one's Oscar fought are better, absolutely.

    The irrelelvant, washed up ones Shane fought were about as good, if not worse.
    This^^^^^^

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      #92
      Originally posted by turbotime
      Maybe because Sosa never did anything before, or after?
      Was Floyd beating just Castillo, better than all that Shane did at 135??? Yes or no???

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        #93
        Originally posted by 4CornersKid
        Was Floyd beating just Castillo, better than all that Shane did at 135??? Yes or no???
        Going 1 and 1 with JLC is pretty good. But no. I don't give one win seniority over winning the title fairly and dominating all your opponents.

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          #94
          Originally posted by turbotime
          Going 1 and 1 with JLC is pretty good. But no. I don't give one win seniority over winning the title fairly and dominating all your opponents.
          Having a close, could have gone either way win and a clear win over Castillo >>>>> Beating literal bums and washed up fighters outside of Holiday in dominant fashion.

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          • purecyse
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            #95
            I'm disappointed to come into a discussion with people that clearly know their stuff and no one mentions that Shane Mosley's body punches were what helped him dominate those opponents.

            Mosley stopped being dedicated to those punches as he moved up, which is why any version of Mayweather at 147 beats any version of Shane at 147. Neglecting body work and trying to out-fight Mayweather is a 12 round UD waiting to happen.

            At 135, with Mayweather using that jab to control distance and throwing in combination? Mosley beats him if Floyd comes into the fight in the same condition as he fought Castillo, outside of that, Mosley has the same chances as he has now, HOPE TO LAND A BIG SHOT.

            His chances would, of course, be a bit better do to faster handspeed, better timing and less wear and tear but even at 135, at the peak of his powers, he was very hittable AND gave the appearance of gassing at certain points in fights.

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              #96
              Originally posted by jvsnypes
              I think Floyd still outboxes him. But, if a prime Shane gets Floyd hurt the same way as the second round, he finishes him.
              I agree. If it goes the distance Floyd wins but I give Mosley maybe a 1 in 3 shot to score the KO.

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                #97
                Originally posted by turbotime
                Maybe because Sosa never did anything before, or after?
                Well, atleast he was in the Top 10 unlike Molina and atleast he was in his prime.

                Not that Sosa was a good win for Mayweather, it wasn't.

                It's just demonstrating how worthless the Leija and Molina wins were for Shane at that point.

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by turbotime
                  Going 1 and 1 with JLC is pretty good. But no. I don't give one win seniority over winning the title fairly and dominating all your opponents.
                  The fight was close. It wasn't a highway robberty or anything. I had Floyd losing by 1 point due to the point deduction, even in rounds.

                  Beating Castillo > Beating Holiday-Leija-Molina easily.

                  Castillo beat Cesar Bazan, Stevie Johnston, Juan Lazcano, Joel Casamayor (close fight or not, he still has that win on there), Diego Corrales, and Julio Diaz.

                  That resume s**ts all over anything Holiday, Leija, and Molina ever did. Molina had a good run from 1989-1995 (beating Lopez, Medina, Taylor, and Vargas), but Id' still take Castillo's full resume of his easily. Castillo was the best LW if his era, hands downs.

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                  • 4Corners
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                    #99
                    Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                    Well, atleast he was in the Top 10 unlike Molina and atleast he was in his prime.

                    Not that Sosa was a good win for Mayweather, it wasn't.

                    It's just demonstrating how worthless the Leija and Molina wins were for Shane at that point.
                    Thank you. All I was trying to say was that Sosa was about equal to the Leija and Molina wins at that point. Sosa was by no means a good win for Floyd, but it was alrigh defense, not a really good win. And it's just showing how average Shane's 135 resume was.

                    Castillo is far and away better than anything Shane ever did at 135, and it's not even remotely close.

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                    • turbotime
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                      Well, atleast he was in the Top 10 unlike Molina and atleast he was in his prime.

                      Not that Sosa was a good win for Mayweather, it wasn't.

                      It's just demonstrating how worthless the Leija and Molina wins were for Shane at that point.
                      Sosa is not as good as Molina and Leija man. At any point.

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