Who will go down as the greater fighter Juan Manuel Marquez or Tito Trinidad?

[onetwopunch]

I think the only reason why this poll is so lopsided is becuase most of the people voting for JMM probably werent watching boxing in the 90s. Tito clearly has bigger names on his resume than JMM. And when Tito was fighting the Welter weight division was loaded..so he wasnt fighting nobodys he was giving undefeated fighters there 1st losses..Oba Carr and Campas were undefeated when they fought Tito.

[cactusEG]

Marquez IMO

[Silencers]

Skillwise JMM but I think Trinidad has more quality wins on his resume.

[NachoMan]

^^^^ this and /or 14

The good thing about topics like this that when the Real fans in boxing community, ESPN, Sports Ilustrated, ring Magazine etc. will NEVER put Marquez over Tito Trinidad

ESPN and Sports Illustrated are the real fans in the boxing community?!? Those guys give more attention to hockey, golf and poker for crying out loud.

[PacmanP4PLegend]

Marquez by a touch, as much as die to the fact that when he moved up he won the lineal title, fought the best, and should also have now been a 4 division welterweight champion whilst beating the number 1 P4P. Tito got knocked out in his similar attempt at that kind of greatness. Marquwz surpassed it with flying colours and was robbed through politics and greed.

Just think for one moment if Marquez got his deserved decision. This wouldn't even be questionable. The only reason people are questioning it is because of backroom corruption.

Marquez also has a lot more excellent champs and top fighters on his resume than many think.

Champs: Julio Gervacio (WBA SBW champ)
Orlando Salido (2x current FW champ)
Agapito Sanchez (SBW champ and Pac's only other draw)
Alfred Kotey (BW champ)
Robbie Peden (SFW champ)
Manuel Medina (5 or 6 time champion and FW great)
Derrick Gainer (multiple champ)
I'm going to throw in Victor Polo, because that fight should have been for the Undisputed FW title. Polo had been brutally robbed against Scotto Harrison, the other champion, and so Marauez fought Polo instead of Harrison as that was the guy that was considered the 'real' other champ at the weight at the time. As always, people look back and only see a BS draw instead of Polo being the champion and Marquez missing out on his Undisputed claim. Disgrace. That fight was nearly as bad as Abril/Rios. He was also screwed in his only other title fight outside his country (of course) when the ref ruled an obvious slip against him on the opponents corners towel being left on the ring apron. It literally lost him the fight and title. Poor bastard.
Terdsak Jandaeng (WBC SFW title)
Marco A. Barrera
Rocky Juarez (I'm putting him in here because he was clearly a top flight fighter when Marquez fought him)
Joel Casamayor (lineal SFW and LW titlist)
Juan Diaz (unified LW champ)
Katsidis (ATG legend!)

You also have his two 'losses' to Pac. Despite 80-90% of people believing he pretty clearly one either or both of those fights, it was only the money fighter that got the nods. The third fight was clearly a Marquez win, which should have lead him to being one of the very few fighter in history to jump from 135 to 147 and beat the top flight P4P 1 champ. I don't mind the fact that Pac has a win, and draw against Marquez, what I find most disturbing is that from 3 fights, only the guy that had big money fights lined up ahead of him got the nod over the guy that most thought had pretty clearly won two of those fights. 3rd fight, Pac arguably only won about 3 rounds, yet his fight with Mayweather got him the win. As Arum told Marquez afterward in the ring "It's not personal, it's just business".

You also have Chris John and Freddie Norwood on the list of fighters that really didn't deserve a W against him.

Either way, that's a long list of fighters who were champions that Marquez beat that people forget about.

And the winner is Pacquiao. Just ask Marquez, that guy couldn't buy a win against a contemporary top-notch opponent if his life depended on it. Second would be Tito followed by a distant third JMM.

[$tate of Mind]

Damn this poll is lopsided lol

[$tate of Mind]

Trinidad...


all JMM has is 3 close non-wins against PAC and getting his ass kicked by Floyd

and a devastating one punch KO of Pacquiao

[FerFal'sStepDad]

Tito>Marquez.


More dominant in his career and only lost when he went up in weight.

Marquez will never have the electric energy that Tito bought into the ring. I think Marquez was good but Tito had the better resume.


These polls usually just serve to highlight that we need more Puerto Ricans on this forum.

[Gorilla Dog]

hummmmmmmmm great question.i think id have to go with Jmm due to longevity.Tito had a nice run but didnt have longevity

I'll agree with that /end thread

[FerFal'sStepDad]

I think the only reason why this poll is so lopsided is becuase most of the people voting for JMM probably werent watching boxing in the 90s. Tito clearly has bigger names on his resume than JMM. And when Tito was fighting the Welter weight division was loaded..so he wasnt fighting nobodys he was giving undefeated fighters there 1st losses..Oba Carr and Campas were undefeated when they fought Tito.

Very well said.