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  • GodInFleshSuit
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    #51
    Originally posted by punchville
    well thanks but i was'nt critisizing like you were. and f@ck grammar
    No you were trying to be cute by calling me out on my grammar. Then you go and do the same thing. Oh btw...it's WASN'T, not WAS'NT.

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    • Reloaded
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      #52
      Originally posted by Stop
      Uh, yes you do. In order to take one's belt you need to be the aggressor. Had Marquez actually been aggressive, landed combinations, showed ring leadership etc. then he would have gotten better scores by the judges. But in the end they all saw what most of us saw, Pac dominated and reconfigured JMM's face.
      Get out of here you idiot , you just got to punch the other guy more cleaner and more often than he punches you and have impartial judges , which he did against Pac when he was once again robbed because they were Arums judges , did you like how Floyd made JMM look like an amateur and Pac struggles life and death with him lol .

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      • piojo del norte
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        #53
        Tell Mercito to step up to the plate and take on Rios

        Originally posted by Stop
        Yup, my thoughts exactly. This is by no means worth a PPV buy but I'll still tune in via stream. I hope Marquez and Rios both lose. Rios likes to make fun of people with diseases so let's see how he looks after he gets KO'd.

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        • CHOWWOKKA
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          #54
          Originally posted by Toyman
          what does it matter if the most inexperienced of the 3 judges saw it as a draw? i thought you were unhappy with the judges' decision

          Forcing someone to back pedal is ring generalship - it shows they are afraid of your power as marquez most definitely was - categorize it however you like, but its a factor.


          ring generalship aside, pacquiao still landed the far better punches - on a backtracking target as well which is especially impressive - marquez' constant back pedalling and swollen face are a testament to that
          [IMG]http://www.iamit.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/never_go_full_******1.jpg[/IMG]

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            #55
            Originally posted by punchville
            well thanks but i was'nt critisizing like you were. and f@ck grammar
            ROFL what an idiot.

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            • piojo del norte
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              #56
              Howcome Ariza is being blamed for pacquiao's cramps if he had them even in 2004?

              Show's that you are afraid of someones power? Why should he fight manny's fight if he can school him a third time with his combinations and look good doing it. Even when he stood toe to toe, manny just was not having any luck.

              Manny was frustrated he couldn't do anything but was treated like a punching bag and a criminal.

              Did you see the video I posted? Manny's face is swollen but so what? All I want you to see is his cramps back then.



              Originally posted by Toyman
              what does it matter if the most inexperienced of the 3 judges saw it as a draw? i thought you were unhappy with the judges' decision

              Forcing someone to back pedal is ring generalship - it shows they are afraid of your power as marquez most definitely was - categorize it however you like, but its a factor.


              ring generalship aside, pacquiao still landed the far better punches - on a backtracking target as well which is especially impressive - marquez' constant back pedalling and swollen face are a testament to that

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                #57
                Originally posted by Toyman
                you only saw marquez schooling pacquiao because thats what you were hoping to see


                dave moretti, glenn trowbridge, harold lederman and myself saw pacquiao force marquez to backpedal all night long. thats ring generalship.
                Arum judges and the house HBO judge that Pacquiao is signed with had him winning.

                Wow.

                we saw pacquiao repeatedly connect on marquez even as marquez was backtracking and trying to get away. thats effective punching and effective aggression.
                No. Marquez's plan was to use Pac's aggression against him and that's what he did by repeatedly walking Pac into punches and outmaneuvering him.

                Marquez is a counterpuncher. Why would he fight like Antonio Margarito and go forward?



                we also saw pacquiao transform marquez' face into an unrecognizable mess - which means his punches were hurting marquez far more than vice versa- this is of course, also evident in the fact that marquez backpedalled all night
                Using angles, lateral movement and counterpunching /=/ back peddling

                ill give marquez credit -he did win about 3 or 4 rounds - but his tactics can only fool naive and wishful fans - not actual judges.
                aka you

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                • punchville
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Camp Beast
                  No you were trying to be cute by calling me out on my grammar. Then you go and do the same thing. Oh btw...it's WASN'T, not WAS'NT.
                  not really, i was just exposing you hypocrisy. and dont give a **** if it's wasnt, was'nt , walnut , walmart ..f@kk grammar

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                  • Toyman
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by piojo del norte
                    You keep on talking about how Marquez looked after the fight. Does that mean that clottey beat manny?

                    Use your brain not your heart, it's OK to support your countryman, but you can't keep on lying to yourself.

                    Manny was reduced from a typhoon to a light mist. He was treated like a criminal who stole some donuts from a donut shop and Marquez was his father teaching him that stealing is wrong.
                    no that doesnt mean clottey beat manny - it means that clottey was able to hurt manny more than marquez could.

                    marquez swollen face is a testament to the fact that pacquiao outpunched him, both in volume and effectiveness - you would of course have to have watched the fight with an unbiased opinion to notice this

                    the only schooling i see is marquez getting hit with right hooks and left hands , even whilst backing away

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                    • lilducer22
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by piojo del norte
                      Antonio Margarito and Brandon Rios would be pound x pound #1 and #2.
                      right? lol i mean thats how he must see it, so in his eyes margarito was beating pac in their fight cuz margarito just kept coming forward non stop being the aggressor and pac back pedaling, lol that guy is a complete dumb ****, doesnt even know what ring generalship is

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