Comments Thread For: Juan Manuel Marquez is Ready, Weighs in at 144-Pounds

[disolly]

Uh, yes you do. In order to take one's belt you need to be the aggressor. Had Marquez actually been aggressive, landed combinations, showed ring leadership etc. then he would have gotten better scores by the judges. But in the end they all saw what most of us saw, Pac dominated and reconfigured JMM's face.

I am a big Manny fan but I am not some delusional spectator that only sees what I want. Now I agree, if JMM really wanted to secure the win he should have been more aggressive, especially down the stretch. And that is the case in all 3 fights. That being said, I had Manny winning the first two fights by a round. In the 3rd fight, the same holds true, if you want to dethrone the champ and #1 p4p fighter as well as one of the biggest athletes on the planet, you should be more aggressive. JMM even said it himself before the fight. In the end though, Marquez did win that fight, now people that say it was a huge robbery are somewhat exaggerating, it was still pretty close but I think JMM probably had him by 2 or 3 rounds. There have been much worst robberies in the last couple years, like the williams/lara fight, which I thought lara won by 6 rounds or so.

[antweezy23]

I am a big Manny fan but I am not some delusional spectator that only sees what I want. Now I agree, if JMM really wanted to secure the win he should have been more aggressive, especially down the stretch. And that is the case in all 3 fights. That being said, I had Manny winning the first two fights by a round. In the 3rd fight, the same holds true, if you want to dethrone the champ and #1 p4p fighter as well as one of the biggest athletes on the planet, you should be more aggressive. JMM even said it himself before the fight. In the end though, Marquez did win that fight, now people that say it was a huge robbery are somewhat exaggerating, it was still pretty close but I think JMM probably had him by 2 or 3 rounds. There have been much worst robberies in the last couple years, like the williams/lara fight, which I thought lara won by 6 rounds or so.

Hmm...kinda sounds like something a delusional spectator would say...

[Stop]

dude really what planet do you live on??? see the thing that bothers me about pakk- turrds is you guys are just BLIND as blind can be, "didnt land combinations???? dude what fight were you watching?? obviousley your in total denial that your god got his azz kicked in front of the entire world and you cant come to grips with it,may I add by a 38year old liteweight albeit a great one. Not even in the philipines do they credit that fight as a win for pac, JMM was punching in Pacs face the entire fight and you guys are saying he wasnt the aggressor????And please explain to us how getting PUNCHED in the face ,bleeding like a stuck pig from the mouth and eye, missing wild lunging shots and getting timed and outboxed-out thought,blunted, and tripping over yourself the way Pac did all night ""effective aggression"????????? pac may be a popular fighter but face it dude JMM spanked that AZZ and you know it denying that fact wont change a damn thing, you certainly arent going to convince people that have eyes otherwise.

give me a break dude at what point does reality kick in????pac didnt do shiaat to jmm and the best punch he landed was a headbutt in the 4th round, pac won maybe like 2 rounds of that fight, the only way JMm was going to walk away with a win was by ko, that much is clear arums paid off judges did simply shafted JMm to save a mayweather fight thats bnever going to happen and even if it does pac will get str8 up kod or beaten 10x worse than jMM beat him, look at my sig down here theres your non-aggression...IDIOT
JMM was ROBBED pac by no parameter,way shape or form won that fight, not even close! Gift decision because hes pac nothing less nothing more.

That was basically a very long way to say "In my opinion Marquez beat Pac". That's fine, we all have our opinions, but respect those made by the professional judges that have been scoring professional fights for years. Many people on this forum are just clicking away waiting for Pacquiao's downfall, and they saw that fight as an opportunity to yell "robbery" when in fact it was no where near a robbery. Pac, for the first time in YEARS looked human for once. He didn't completely storm through JMM like most had thought. But, he still did school him, I saw Pac winning 8 rounds to Marquez' 4 rounds. Just look at JMM's face after the fight compared to Pac's.

[HardAss]

War pac's daddy!!!

[Toney Loc]

I'm curious to see how he fights this time. Hopefully he's learned his lesson that you can't coast to a free win while being backed up pot shotting the entire fight. You have to be the aggressor. This is definitely not worth a PPV buy but I will most likely stream it.

[Toyman]

That was basically a very long way to say "In my opinion Marquez beat Pac". That's fine, we all have our opinions, but respect those made by the professional judges that have been scoring professional fights for years. Many people on this forum are just clicking away waiting for Pacquiao's downfall, and they saw that fight as an opportunity to yell "robbery" when in fact it was no where near a robbery. Pac, for the first time in YEARS looked human for once. He didn't completely storm through JMM like most had thought. But, he still did school him, I saw Pac winning 8 rounds to Marquez' 4 rounds. Just look at JMM's face after the fight compared to Pac's.

its worth mentioning that dave moretti and glenn trowbridge are 2 of the best and most experienced judges in the world. so you know when they both agree pacquiao won, it means pacquiao won.

[piojo del norte]

So the scorecards are always right?

Many factors contribute the way judges see a fight. Top rank is the promoter of manny not Jmm's promoter that is a HUGE advantage already.

I understand it hurts the filipinos (most not all) because this is your national hero and you have nothing more to be proud of I understand that, but many of you need to understand and accept defeat. The truth is the truth the world saw it.

Is many good ? yes he is, but JMM is better.

its worth mentioning that dave moretti and glenn trowbridge are 2 of the best and most experienced judges in the world. so you know when they both agree pacquiao won, it means pacquiao won.

[piojo del norte]

be real be filipino??? NO,, manny pacquiao, you be real and be a real Christian and stop lying to yourself.

[punchville]

So the scorecards are always right?

Many factors contribute the way judges see a fight. Top rank is the promoter of manny not Jmm's promoter that is a HUGE advantage already.

I understand it hurts the filipinos (most not all) because this is your national hero and you have nothing more to be proud of I understand that, but many of you need to understand and accept defeat. The truth is the truth the world saw it.

Is many good ? yes he is, but JMM is better.

whats with attcking the filipinos in general? we have 5 world champs right now in boxing (2 em in the top 10 p4p) which i dont expect for someone like you to know.

the truth is the fight was close and could've gone either way. even the scorecard who had it for marquez was close, you clowns just dont admit it.

[piojo del norte]

The only thing close that night must have been your eyes if you believe that fight was close. ALL boxers even Khan and Linares saw Marquez win.

You can have 5 boxing champs but most filipinos only know one name and that is manny. Nonito is not even accepted by many filipinos, might as well make nonito a Mexican since his trainer is

whats with attcking the filipinos in general? we have 5 world champs right now in boxing (2 em in the top 10 p4p) which i dont expect for someone like you to know.

the truth is the fight was close and could've gone either way. even the scorecard who had it for marquez was close, you clowns just dont admit it.