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  • #41
    Originally posted by GrandpaBernard View Post
    He has a point. Floyd rarely uses lateral movement. What he's conveniently ignoring is that Floyd made an adjustment after round 4 in the DLH fight, coincidentally a fight where roach was the trainer, to incorporate more lateral in his boxing.

    Floyd's upper body slickness, parrying, shoulder rolling, clinching, and ability to fight off the ropes allow him not to be as reliant on lateral movement for defense. Keep in mind that we're hearing about it all from roach's perspective. None of his fighters have upper body slickness, parrying, shoulder rolling, clinching, and rope fighting skills, so movement is the holy grail of defense in his mind.
    Great points, you made alot of sense

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    • #42
      Well Lord Roach is part of the p@kt@rd holy trinity so what he says is law.

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      • #43
        Well I agree Floyd has settled down a bit and sure he may have slowed down some, he is getting older. Anything Roach says is garbage though because he is obviously completely biased. Funny though he said in another article no way Cotto can beat Floyd etc. lol. Roach can say whatever though, and I respect his viewpoint regardless, but he is done as a top trainer and he knows it. Pac is pretty much done at this point (and will be lucky to get by Bradley), Khan has plateaued, Kayode sucks and will continue to be exposed, Linares continues to lose and JCC jr we all know is one fight away from being done. Garcia is quickly becoming one of the top trainers, if not the top one.

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        • #44
          we'll find out if roach is right with the cotto fight....cotto will be putting big time pressure on floyd...and being 35, hard to say when floyd will hit the wall...oscar was done by 35, but he had been in a lot more battles than floyd

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          • #45
            Originally posted by .WaRCoTTo. View Post
            Lol...The Mayweather crew came to the rescue IMMEDIATELY!..wow...
            its hilarious how bad they want to suck the guy off. I only come here for the amusement at this point. fan girls say the funniest things.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by DoubleMM View Post
              So according to him Cotto is not he same fighter when he fought Pacquiao, except they wanted to fight Cotto, at....... 147 lbs. LOL
              I Know right what a crazy man

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              • #47
                Originally posted by Ugh! View Post
                someone doesn't know what lateral is
                So you agree with Roach that Floyd doesn't have lateral movement these days?

                Originally posted by GrandpaBernard View Post
                Keep in mind that we're hearing about it all from roach's perspective. None of his fighters have upper body slickness, parrying, shoulder rolling, clinching, and rope fighting skills, so movement is the holy grail of defense in his mind.
                Spot on dude.

                Originally posted by Alpha & Omega View Post
                Garcia is quickly becoming one of the top trainers, if not the top one.
                Garcia ain't that good. In the Donaire/Narvaez fight his instructions were crap.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by DoubleMM View Post
                  So according to him Cotto is not he same fighter when he fought Pacquiao, except they wanted to fight Cotto, at....... 147 lbs. LOL
                  But Roach & Pacquaio don't cherry pick? LMAO.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by William Blake View Post
                    we'll find out if roach is right with the cotto fight....cotto will be putting big time pressure on floyd...and being 35, hard to say when floyd will hit the wall...oscar was done by 35, but he had been in a lot more battles than floyd
                    Cotto couldn't even keep the pressure on Shane Mosley...he had to run.

                    Shane walked thru everything Cotto had...but he couldn't walk thru Floyd's punches.

                    Cotto will be scrambling backwards with that sad look on his face we've all grown accustomed to.
                    Last edited by AlwaysOnTop; 04-07-2012, 02:21 PM.

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                    • #50
                      Roach is right. Floyd is getting older and it's definitely showing. He was basically bullied into the corner by Ortiz and hit with many flush shots. He was being pushed back so much that he felt the only way to beat the kid was to cheat, and what better way to cheat than sucker punching? But then again, this is the same Mayweather that lost to Castillo, Oscar, and got rocked by Hatton, Judah, Mosley and will get hurt by Cotto. He never had great lateral movement to begin with.
                      Last edited by Stop; 04-07-2012, 02:35 PM.

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