Bute....

[SCtrojansbaby]

People are still talking about this? Bute beat the count with no time left in the 12 if the ref didn't act like an idiot this would of been obvious and no one would talking about it

Bute won fair and square, Andrade was in no way shape or form robbed

[WESS]

People are still talking about this? Bute beat the count with no time left in the 12 if the ref didn't act like an idiot this would of been obvious and no one would talking about it

Bute won fair and square, Andrade was in no way shape or form robbed

The ref does not agree with you...

[ATG Fighter]

Bute beat the count and so he rightfully won because it was the end of the fight. Some butthurt people like to clutch at straws. Anyways, I have Bute beating Froch and setting up the big fight with Ward.

[-Spinal-]

Lol at Bute "getting up before 10". He got up looking about as good as Juan Manuel Lopez, or Fernando Montiel. And if you look like Bute looked, any other ref would have stopped at 8 and stop the fight. But this wasn't your ordinary ref. This guy has ref'ed like almost 10 of Bute's fights. That's already a red flag right there, something is up with these two. Notice how at 28 seconds left in the 12th, the ref steps in to break nothing up, and looking like he's obviously buying time for Bute to catch his breath.

[ATG Fighter]

It doesn't matter if the ref was looking at Bute or not. Count for yourself. Bute got up before the count of 10. Even if the ref was looking at him and felt he was very hurt, I don't think he should stop it on the basis of "the fighter is in no condition to continue" because there is nothing to continue to.........it's the end of the fight. It isn't like Bute is in danger of taking more punches after this.

That is how I see it

[WESS]

Bute beat the count and so he rightfully won because it was the end of the fight. Some butthurt people like to clutch at straws. Anyways, I have Bute beating Froch and setting up the big fight with Ward.

Beating the count was irreverent as the ref turned away and stopped the count and the bell never officially rang to end the round when Bute rose to his feet.

The bottom line is, the fight was still active when the ref turned away which was well after the 2 seconds that remained on the clock and according to the ref, if he hadn't turned away from Bute who was visibly hurt, Andrade would have won.

The fight is not over until the bell rings or the ref flags it off. Neither happened in this fight until the ref took nearly 24 seconds to allow Bute to recover.

[PACnPBFsuck]

and like I said the bell didn't ring until the ref cleared Bute fit to fight. However the ref left his position and turned away from Bute (bell never rang) and he then continued the long count. Like the ref said in the post fight interview, if Andrade had stayed in his corner he would have won.. You would have to assume from that, he would have flagged it off if he hadn't turned around..

The problem is whovever was in charge of the bell that night was wrong as hell, the bell should've rung as soon as the time hit triple zero's regardless of the KD, but they didn't, they waited until the ref finished his count.

Another thing is, I never heard was the 10 second warning, Wright could've made a good case of not knowing how much time was left in the fight, and that's why he kept telling Andrade to retun to his corner, even tho I thought that it was unnecessary.

At first I was accusing him of stealing the fight from Andrade, but the more I look at, the more I can tell that he just didn't know how much time was left in the fight, which was time keepers fault.

[WESS]

It doesn't matter if the ref was looking at Bute or not. Count for yourself. Bute got up before the count of 10. Even if the ref was looking at him and felt he was very hurt, I don't think he should stop it on the basis of "the fighter is in no condition to continue" because there is nothing to continue to.........it's the end of the fight. It isn't like Bute is in danger of taking more punches after this.

That is how I see it

The ref didn't know how many seconds where left on the clock as he is not the time keeper. He didn't know if he would have taken more punishment or not as he went as far to clean Bute's gloves to continue on fighting (nearly 24 seconds later).

The problem I have is the ref said Andrade lost because he left his corner. The only way you can translate this is, he would have waved it off because Bute was hurt too badly to continue.

[Discipline]

This is one of the reasons behind my thinking that Bute ducked the Super Six. Shortly, after his fight with Andrade talks happened for the Super Six. I don't think Bute's Team were willing enough to want him to compete in a tourney with 6 of the best supermiddles in the world (who can all hit just as hard as Andrade, if not better), after getting knocked down badly in the 12th round of his last fight. Simple logic tells you Bute and his team wanted no part in competing in the Super Middleweight Tourney.

Instead, they'd rather have him fight a couple of tune ups, to get his confidence back up, improve his chin - sit on the sidelines and watch the best tear each other up - then when the dust settles, challenge the battle worn winner.

[WESS]

The problem is whovever was in charge of the bell that night was wrong as hell, the bell should've rung as soon as the time hit triple zero's regardless of the KD, but they didn't, they waited until the ref finished his count.

Another thing is, I never heard was the 10 second warning, Wright could've made a good case of not knowing how much time was left in the fight, and that's why he kept telling Andrade to retun to his corner, even tho I thought that it was unnecessary.

At first I was accusing him of stealing the fight from Andrade, but the more I look at, the more I can tell that he just didn't know how much time was left in the fight, which was time keepers fault.

He didn't know how much time was left. It was a fail on both the time keeper and ref. However the ref is the man in charge. He found a reason to turn away from a hurt fighter, nearly 24 seconds go by and he allows him to continue on.

He also made it perfectly clear that if Andarde had stayed in his corner he would have won. The only way you can take that is, if Wright wouldn't have had a reason to turn around, he would have waved it of.