Bute....

[PACnPBFsuck]

Andrade's condition? Now you're confusing yourself

You obviously don't remember Bute being helped to his corner, plus 10-15 extra seconds that Bute got helped him, nobody in their right mind can deny that.

Seeing how the last round is the only round you can't be saved by the bell, Bute was supposed to come to the ref which he didn't and beat a 10 count which he did, the only problem is that he never walked to the ref and he got more than a standing 10 count to recover.

[turbotime]

Yes, he had no eyes on Bute when he was getting up and falling in to the ropes..

You're actually understanding now and diverting... It's cool. I know you know what the ref said and by his decision to turn away saved him to force a stoppage. As Bute was not fit to fight and like he stated after the fight, Andrade lost because he left his corner.

[HeroBando]

Yes, he had no eyes on Bute when he was getting up and falling in to the ropes..

You're actually understanding now and diverting... It's cool. I know you know what the ref said and by his decision to turn away saved him to force a stoppage. As Bute was not fit to fight and like he stated after the fight, Andrade lost because he left his corner.

The IBF rules have been posted here. The bell is supposed to ring when he rises (like, hands/knees clear the canvas), wobbling on the ropes doesn't make a difference. He doesn't need to show readiness to continue.

Now Wright probably hadn't heard the 10 sec bell, being busy trying to get in Andrade's way. I don't think he should have stopped it before the KD as some say, but had he stayed out of his way, Andrade would have probably got the KD earlier with time to finish.

[William Blake]

Bute was up by seven....turn down the volume and start counting from the time his ass hits the floor.

[PACnPBFsuck]

The IBF rules have been posted here. The bell is supposed to ring when he rises (like, hands/knees clear the canvas), wobbling on the ropes doesn't make a difference. He doesn't need to show readiness to continue.

Now Wright probably hadn't heard the 10 sec bell, being busy trying to get in Andrade's way. I don't think he should have stopped it before the KD as some say, but had he stayed out of his way, Andrade would have probably got the KD earlier with time to finish.

Including the final round? Why bother cleaning his gloves if he doesn't have show that he's able to continues.

[BattlingNelson]

As far as I'm concerned, Bute beat the count. It shouldn't have gone that far though. Bute was out on his feet and should have been stopped before he went down. He's lucky to be alive today.

Andrade got shafted there.

[WESS]

As far as I'm concerned, Bute beat the count. It shouldn't have gone that far though. Bute was out on his feet and should have been stopped before he went down. He's lucky to be alive today.

Andrade got shafted there.

The problem is, the ref wrongfully turned away and didn't have eyes on the hurt fighter. At the end of the day the bell rang after the ref cleared Bute of being fit to fight, which was nearly 24 seconds later. Then the bell rings to end the last round and the fight was officially over.

Everyone talking about the fight was over the second he stood up are wrong. The ref wasn't even in the position to say it was over (if he felt Bute was not fit to fight) and the bell didn't ring to officially end the round until the ref cleared Bute.

Bottom line, if the ref had stayed in the correct position Andrade would have won. Hints why he said in the post fight interview, Andrade lost the fight because he moved from his corner. It had nothing to do with Bute beating or not beating the count. He was finished and the ref gave himself an excuse to turn away from the KO'ed fighter.

[PACnPBFsuck]

The problem is, the ref wrongfully turned away and didn't have eyes on the hurt fighter. At the end of the day the bell rang after the ref cleared Bute of being fit to fight, which was nearly 24 seconds later. Then the bell rings to end the last round and the fight was officially over.

Everyone talking about the fight was over the second he stood up are wrong. The ref wasn't even in the position to say it was over (if he felt Bute was not fit to fight) and the bell didn't ring to officially end the round until the ref cleared Bute.

Bottom line, if the ref had stayed in the correct position Andrade would have won. Hints why he said in the post fight interview, Andrade lost the fight because he moved from his corner. It had nothing to do with Bute beating or not beating the count. He was finished and the ref gave himself an excuse to turn away from the KO'ed fighter.

According to the IBF rules, these guys are right. Someone just sent this to me;

6. The bell will not save a boxer in any round of the bout. If a boxer is "downed" just
before the 3-minute bell in any round, the referee's count shall continue and the bell will
not ring until the boxer rises and his hands clear the floor.

http://assets.ibf-usba-boxing.com/File/IBF-USBABoutRules.pdf

If we go by the IBF's rules, then Bute just had to beat the KD count, so yeah he would've been declared the winner as soon as he got up, even without showing that he was fit to fight.

[WESS]

According to the IBF rules, these guys are right. Someone just sent this to me;

6. The bell will not save a boxer in any round of the bout. If a boxer is "downed" just
before the 3-minute bell in any round, the referee's count shall continue and the bell will
not ring until the boxer rises and his hands clear the floor.

http://assets.ibf-usba-boxing.com/File/IBF-USBABoutRules.pdf

If we go by the IBF's rules, then Bute just had to beat the KD count, so yeah he would've been declared the winner as soon as he got up, even without showing that he was fit to fight.

and like I said the bell didn't ring until the ref cleared Bute fit to fight. However the ref left his position and turned away from Bute (bell never rang) and he then continued the long count. Like the ref said in the post fight interview, if Andrade had stayed in his corner he would have won.. You would have to assume from that, he would have flagged it off if he hadn't turned around..

[SCtrojansbaby]

People are still talking about this? Bute beat the count with no time left in the 12 if the ref didn't act like an idiot this would of been obvious and no one would talking about it.

Bute won fair and square, Andrade was in no way shape or form robbed