Alvarez-Kirkland eyed for September

[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

Good valid points you made there sport...

I'm not sure why you felt the need to make 3 different posts about the same argument either. Kirkland #1.

[BoxingGenius27]

Good valid points you made there sport...

I'm not sure why you felt the need to make 3 different posts about the same argument either. Kirkland #1.

Ok, so you tell me yoda.

Why didn't Julio blast Kirkland within the first 30 seconds?

Kirkland took some huge shots from Julio who has been known to KO guys early to mid rounds (i.e K-9).

Why is your Ishida rule failing so miserably when applied to not only Julio, but Vera (blasted Andy Lee one fight prior)?

Lastly, since you say that Angulo "gassed" out, are you saying he was gassed out after the 1st Kirkland knock down after throwing all of 10 punches or so?

I ask because, last time I checked, you had to throw punches in order to gas out. Based on your Ishida theory, Kirkland should've folded with each Angulo punch thrown after the knockdown, since Angulo punches 10x harder than Ishida.

In other words, based on this "Ishida" theory, as soon as Kirk got up, the next punch thrown by Angulo should've been a death blow. Hell, based on this "Ishida" theory, Kirkland should've never gotten up in the first place considering feather fisted Ishida knocked him down 3 times. Do you see the logic in your great theory?

Again, you make great sense. You should be giving boxingscene seminars so those that think like you can learn more.

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Canelo's been hurt by Cotto's brother.

Using the "Ishida" logic from this thread, Kirkland should finish the deal in the 1st round against Canelo.

Lol at all the boxing math here.

It's not the Ishida logic it's your logic. You're the one who brought up that Canelo was hurt by Jose Cotto so we brought up the fact that Kirkland was KTFO'd by Ishida. Don't be mad when your own logic backfires.

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So canelol/ Kirkland, pac/ jmm 4 and martinez/jcc2 all being discussed. Does that mean Floyd vs ortiz/berto in the fall?

[BoxingGenius27]

It's not the Ishida logic it's your logic. You're the one who brought up that Canelo was hurt by Jose Cotto so we brought up the fact that Kirkland was KTFO'd by Ishida. Don't be mad when your own logic backfires.

Ok, buddy. I've been hearing about this Ishida mess from you for the last week or so. Nice try.

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Ok, buddy. I've been hearing about this Ishida mess from you for the last week or so. Nice try.

I only bring it up when you start talking about Canelo's chin or power. Just to bring you back down to earth.

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I hope to god this fight happens. It will be great to see what everyone does when Kirkland completely destroys Canelo like he did Angulo.

What I don't get is that everyone loved Kirkland after the Angulo fight. Now after that cheat Molina held 118 times and Kirkland had 2 shoulder tears and looked ordinary even though he was gonna stop Molina, now everyone hates him. I'm ok with the your only as good as your last fight saying, but at least acknowledge the 118 clinches and 2 tears.

Someone answer this question. Who in the hell has Canelo beat even comparable to Kirkland?

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Kirkand has KO'd bigger stronger guys in Angulo, Vera and Julio.

Canelo has KO'd many smaller guys.

So you assume that Kirkland hits harder. Than you see that Canelo hasn't faced any game punchers. Cintron was done and more of WW anyway.

When you use "logic" you can see a fight in which both men go down. Canelo is there to be hit and when Kirkland hits someone clean they usually feel it.

Kirkland was never "out" he tried to get up but Cortez held him down.

You'll notice that Canelo was there to get hit because the guys he was fighting did not pose KO power. Canelo did not care about getting hit in some of his fights. YOu can bet the house canelo would be a lot harder to hit vs kirkland and anyone who has watched boxing long enough knows that Boxers will almost always beat a brawler. Kirland has shown that he can be outboxed and ktfo. Molina was laying a smacking on him.

Canelo would embarrass Kirkland and stop him. Kirkland is a Margarito, without the chin and without the body work. Mayweather would absolutely kill Kirkland and so would canelo.

[Evil Abed]

You'll notice that Canelo was there to get hit because the guys he was fighting did not pose KO power. Canelo did not care about getting hit in some of his fights. YOu can bet the house canelo would be a lot harder to hit vs kirkland and anyone who has watched boxing long enough knows that Boxers will almost always beat a brawler. Kirland has shown that he can be outboxed and ktfo. Molina was laying a smacking on him.

Canelo would embarrass Kirkland and stop him. Kirkland is a Margarito, without the chin and without the body work. Mayweather would absolutely kill Kirkland and so would canelo.

Clinching or not Canelo doesn't box nearly as well as Molina. Also assuming Canelo can all of sudden not get hit when he's never shown that before is also ******.

Where did you get that little factoid? Brawlers beat boxers all the time.

Don't compare Mayweather to Canelo. That's just dumb.

So much fail in your post.

[BoxingGenius27]

I hope to god this fight happens. It will be great to see what everyone does when Kirkland completely destroys Canelo like he did Angulo.

What I don't get is that everyone loved Kirkland after the Angulo fight. Now after that cheat Molina held 118 times and Kirkland had 2 shoulder tears and looked ordinary even though he was gonna stop Molina, now everyone hates him. I'm ok with the your only as good as your last fight saying, but at least acknowledge the 118 clinches and 2 tears.

Someone answer this question. Who in the hell has Canelo beat even comparable to Kirkland?

Ndou maybe?