How Is Chemito Moreno ranked above Mares?

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  • IronDanHamza
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    #61
    Originally posted by wmute
    The Ring is owned by the promoter of Abner Mares...
    Moreno is also with GBP now, though.

    Although, he was ranked highly before he was with them.

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    • turbotime
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      #62
      I don't know about the conspiracy theory that GBP owns RING mag has anything to do with rankings.

      Pacquiao is the #1 P4P fighter and at welter in their mag and he clearly isn't, and he clearly isn't promoted by GBP, while a fighter they do work with, Mayweather- SHOULD be the clear #1, but isn't.

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      • Rip Chudd
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        #63
        Originally posted by Mars Volta
        abner is unbeaten and has fought and beaten the better fighters though

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        • -PANDA-
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          #64
          Originally posted by IronDanHamza
          Sydorenko's a pretty good fighter.

          And a win over him is certainly better than a draw with Perez.
          sydorenko's biggest win was poon...

          he hasnt beaten anyone of note after that

          mares had the edge on perez...it was a close high paced fight which many, including panda, thought mares edged even though he took his foot off the gas in the middle rounds

          had they fought again a more experienced mares wouldve handled him easily just like agbeko did in his rematch with perez

          darchinyan made it a dirty, ugly fight, and still a relatively green mares squeezed out a close but fair decision

          agbeko > any opponent on moreno's record (to date)

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            #65
            Originally posted by Dominicano Soy
            The topic is ranking, Jros said " Moreno was more dominant than Mares against the same common opponent in Vic", which adds to his ranking. You brought up the ****** Mayweather-Baldomir/ Canelo-Baldomir analogy as a way to discredit Moreno's win, not triangle theories, all you've done is throw out random shit since the start.
            inclined to believe mares fought a better vic than moreno did...

            vic also fought a green version of mares, anyone that doesnt acknowledge the improvements of mares since that fight needs to stop watching boxing

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            • IronDanHamza
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              #66
              Originally posted by -PANDA-
              sydorenko's biggest win was poon...

              he hasnt beaten anyone of note after that

              mares had the edge on perez...it was a close high paced fight which many, including panda, thought mares edged even though he took his foot off the gas in the middle rounds

              had they fought again a more experienced mares wouldve handled him easily just like agbeko did in his rematch with perez

              darchinyan made it a dirty, ugly fight, and still a relatively green mares squeezed out a close but fair decision

              agbeko > any opponent on moreno's record (to date)
              I agree that Mares probably has the better resume of the two but it's by no means a landslide.

              Sydorenko is a top fighter though or was then at 118 his fight with Agbeko showed that alone.

              The Sydorenko win is what took Moreno to higher ranks at 118 and has just stayed there since which is what I was referring to to him fighitng top fighters before Mares which was why he has been ranked higher for a while.

              I wouldn't be mad if Mares was ranked above Moreno to be honest, he did win the Tornument and probably has the better resume.

              I think Moreno is the better fighter personally but who should be ranked higher is arguable, IMO.

              Again, all I was saying was why I thought they had him there. Which I'm guessing is because he's been ranked above Mares a while and hasn't lost since then.

              I'd like to see them fight, then it will be settled.

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              • Cleto_Reyes
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                #67
                Mares should be over Moreno IMO. He's got the best uppercut to the groin in boxing. all kidding aside Mares would whoop moreno right now. Let that fight happen!

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                  I agree that Mares probably has the better resume of the two but it's by no means a landslide.

                  Sydorenko is a top fighter though or was then at 118 his fight with Agbeko showed that alone.

                  The Sydorenko win is what took Moreno to higher ranks at 118 and has just stayed there since which is what I was referring to to him fighitng top fighters before Mares which was why he has been ranked higher for a while.

                  I wouldn't be mad if Mares was ranked above Moreno to be honest, he did win the Tornument and probably has the better resume.

                  I think Moreno is the better fighter personally but who should be ranked higher is arguable, IMO.

                  Again, all I was saying was why I thought they had him there. Which I'm guessing is because he's been ranked above Mares a while and hasn't lost since then.

                  I'd like to see them fight, then it will be settled.
                  great post! agreed on everything and seeing as mares is moving up moreno is now #1

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                  • chocolate
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                    #69
                    Mares is a super bantamweight anyway now so who cares?

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                    • Elotero
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Dominicano Soy
                      The topic is ranking, Jros said " Moreno was more dominant than Mares against the same common opponent in Vic", which adds to his ranking. You brought up the ****** Mayweather-Baldomir/ Canelo-Baldomir analogy as a way to discredit Moreno's win, not triangle theories, all you've done is throw out random shit since the start.

                      In this case it has nothing to do with performance vs common opponent because the common opponent was already degraded by the time Moreno fought Vic.

                      Moreno reached a higher rank before Mares and hasn't lost that's why he is on top.

                      The fact that Anselmo also beat Darch is a minor point. Vic's stock was already dropping coming off the losses to Agbeko and Mares.

                      Morel should be good prep for a Moreno fight.

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