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  • #1Assassin
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    #61
    Originally posted by treason1
    sugar ray would most definatly knock out mayfeather jr just like he knocked out his big mouth father but there is no way in hell hes knocking manny out !!!!!!!!!!!! btw who ever rote that article is a dummy !!!! they are saying mayfeather would win because he has great defense and sugar wouldnt be able to hit him ~!!!!!! but the last time i checked floyd sr teached floyd jr how to have defense !!!! and we all know what happened when sugar faced his father
    what a ******^^

    first of all ray didnt KO floyd sr, he decisioned him. second just bcuz floyd sr taught floyd how to fight that doesnt make him a better fighter, roy jones' dad was a fighter and he taught roy how to fight, that doesnt mean he was a better fighter. clearly floyd jr is alot better than his dad ever was.

    leonard would knock pacquiao out easily, its a terrible fight for manny. he might knock floyd out too although i doubt it, he would beat him though but probably on points. floyd is the kind of guy who would be extremely hard to finish for any fighter in history, bcuz of his defense, heart, chin and fighting IQ. pac has chin and heart but his defense and fighting IQ is too low to survive 12 rounds with the likes of leonard and hearns.

    hearns would knock floyd out though, he has the perfect style to beat floyd in addition to his brutal power.

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    • Boxingtech718v2
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      #62
      Originally posted by Bushbaby
      This is a serious question. Who has Floyd ever shared a ring with for you to begin to assume that he goes 50/50 against SRL or Hearns? I see no one on his resume capable of comparing to those 2.
      Floyd hasn't fought anybody on that level yes. But who has been on that level these days? SRL had a tough time with Mayweather Sr and Floyd is a superior boxer to his dad. Plus Floyd has proven to be unbeatable until somebody actually beats him.

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      • UmissUpay
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        #63
        none of the greats would be able to beat floyd coz hed duck them all

        self preservation will keep floyd undefeated

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        • Luilun
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          #64
          If Ray and Tommy used HGH and Roids like Manny and Floyd do how many titles do you think they would have won ? I say Hearns at 6 foot 2 would have gone up to Heavy weight and beat Spinks

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          • SWEETSCIENCE100
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            #65
            I can't see Hearns or Ray knocking Mayweather out, now Pacquiao on the other hand I can see because Pac has no defense! Ray and Hearns have killer right hands with radars on them. Mayweather has super defense that always causes his opponants to alter thier punches causing them to be off with thier timing, and missing. Nither Tommy or Ray has ever fought someone like Mayweather, sure Floyd Sr had the Philly shell defense but he did not perfect it, or had Mayweather jrs Speed, agilty foot work, or work ethic to be the best. Sr was a part time drug dealer, womeniser, drug user and alcohol drinker/ party man. These things will greatly affect your career, just ask Roy jones,Mike Tyson, Zab Judah because they to were guilty of some of these bad habits. Hearns was a very emotional fighter, he would be easily out smarted by Mayweather jr. Its gonna take more than size,punching power and strength to beat Mayweather. Also Mayweather is strong himself, his body has matured well at 147-154. Hes very balanced. Hearns was very top heavy, which was part of the cause of being off balance and tiring late on those skinny legs. Ray was mentally strong, but he to could be bated into fighting the wrong fight. Just watch the 1st Duran fight. You will never see Mayweather jr fight the wrong fight. Always on point with the perfect game plan and stratergy! The proof is in the pudding! Just open your eyes and take the blinders off!

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              #66
              Originally posted by SWEETSCIENCE100
              I can't see Hearns or Ray knocking Mayweather out, now Pacquiao on the other hand I can see because Pac has no defense! Ray and Hearns have killer right hands with radars on them. Mayweather has super defense that always causes his opponants to alter thier punches causing them to be off with thier timing, and missing. Nither Tommy or Ray has ever fought someone like Mayweather, sure Floyd Sr had the Philly shell defense but he did not perfect it, or had Mayweather jrs Speed, agilty foot work, or work ethic to be the best. Sr was a part time drug dealer, womeniser, drug user and alcohol drinker/ party man. These things will greatly affect your career, just ask Roy jones,Mike Tyson, Zab Judah because they to were guilty of some of these bad habits. Hearns was a very emotional fighter, he would be easily out smarted by Mayweather jr. Its gonna take more than size,punching power and strength to beat Mayweather. Also Mayweather is strong himself, his body has matured well at 147-154. Hes very balanced. Hearns was very top heavy, which was part of the cause of being off balance and tiring late on those skinny legs. Ray was mentally strong, but he to could be bated into fighting the wrong fight. Just watch the 1st Duran fight. You will never see Mayweather jr fight the wrong fight. Always on point with the perfect game plan and stratergy! The proof is in the pudding! Just open your eyes and take the blinders off!
              Floyd at Welterweight isn't the best Mayweather as far as being a complete package as he was in the lighter weights where his defense was still in tact but could also exchange and get the better of his opponents (Corrales, Augustus). Leonard was in his prime at Welterweight, strong, fast combinations, mentally in tact, and knew how to switch it up when he needed to. People are basing Floyd's abilities at Welterweight against the likes of Hatton, Baldomir, 38 yr old Mosley, Juan Manuel Marquez and Victor Oritz. NONE of these guys could hold Leonard's jock at Welterweight (not even close). Floyd, Yes, is a brilliant fighter, but styles make fights and Leonard all around is a bad match up for Floyd. To give Floyd credit, I don't think Leonard would KO him but it would be a UD based on activity, speed, movement, and ring smarts that Ray had even at an early age.

              Hearns is a guy I don't think Floyd would attempt to fight. I don't even think if it presented itself that he would've fought Vernon Forrest. At Welterweight, Mayweather is a passive yet effective fighter. His defense and counterpunching really wouldn't deter Hearns away. Hearns got beat by punchers which at Welter Floyd is not.

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                #67
                Originally posted by #1Assassin
                what a ******^^

                leonard would knock pacquiao out easily, its a terrible fight for manny. he might knock floyd out too although i doubt it, he would beat him though but probably on points. floyd is the kind of guy who would be extremely hard to finish for any fighter in history, bcuz of his defense, heart, chin and fighting IQ. pac has chin and heart but his defense and fighting IQ is too low to survive 12 rounds with the likes of leonard and hearns.hearns would knock floyd out though, he has the perfect style to beat floyd in addition to his brutal power.
                SRL knock Pac out? There are many fighters SRL didnt knock out who werent nearly as good as Pac, so why should he knock someone who dont get knocked out? Pac would probably knock out some of the fighters SRL couldnt. Pac would beat SRL and Hearns, Hearns punches are coming from too long away Pac wouldnt get KO'ed like Duran.

                Pac hasnt got where he has got today with just a chin and heart. His IQ is high and his defense isnt bad at all. When fighting JMM it may make it look like Pacs iq is lower than it really is, but only cos he has to initiate the fight with JMM as hes too scared to fight man to man. JMMs doing what SRL did to Duran in the second fight every fight he has with Pac, but doing it even more so than what SRL did to Duran. If SRL fought Duran like that, people would probably have booed SRL. and said he was terrified of Duran.

                Pacs just a bit too brave so he sometimes gets hit with things he dont have to.
                Last edited by hugh grant; 04-05-2012, 12:57 PM.

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                • Bushbaby
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by hugh grant
                  SRL knock Pac out? There are many fighters SRL didnt knock out who werent nearly as good as Pac, so why should he knock someone who dont get knocked out? Pac would probably knock out some of the fighters SRL couldnt. Pac would beat SRL and Hearns, Hearns punches are coming from too long away Pac wouldnt get KO'ed like Duran.

                  Pac hasnt got where he has got today with just a chin and heart. His IQ is high and his defense isnt bad at all. When fighting JMM it may make it look like Pacs iq is lower than it really is, but only cos he has to initiate the fight with JMM as hes too scared to fight man to man. JMMs doing what SRL did to Duran in the second fight every fight he has with Pac, but doing it even more so than what SRL did to Duran. If SRL fought Duran like that, people would probably have booed SRL. and said he was terrified of Duran.

                  Pacs just a bit too brave so he sometimes gets hit with things he dont have to.

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                  • THE REED
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                    #69
                    If Mosley can land, and then land the same punch again... Hearns can, and if he does... peace out.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by #1Assassin
                      what a ******^^

                      first of all ray didnt KO floyd sr, he decisioned him. second just bcuz floyd sr taught floyd how to fight that doesnt make him a better fighter, roy jones' dad was a fighter and he taught roy how to fight, that doesnt mean he was a better fighter. clearly floyd jr is alot better than his dad ever was.

                      leonard would knock pacquiao out easily, its a terrible fight for manny. he might knock floyd out too although i doubt it, he would beat him though but probably on points. floyd is the kind of guy who would be extremely hard to finish for any fighter in history, bcuz of his defense, heart, chin and fighting IQ. pac has chin and heart but his defense and fighting IQ is too low to survive 12 rounds with the likes of leonard and hearns.

                      hearns would knock floyd out though, he has the perfect style to beat floyd in addition to his brutal power.
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