Ray leonard says in an interview he and thomas hearns would have knocked out floyd &

[IronDanHamza]

Funny, he barely beat the washed-up inactive version of De La Hoya and ran the whole fight. Yet he's supposed to "own" Oscar no matter which version? Do you even read what you post?

Poet

He beat that version of Oscar pretty easily and clearly I thought.

[Capaedia]

He beat that version of Oscar pretty easily and clearly I thought.

Co-sign.

when mayweather is on the ropes swing like your stuck in a phonebooth filled with bees. oh and gas out by 6th round parry floyds punches with your forehead.[/IMG]

[talip bin osman]

I can't see Hearns or Ray knocking Mayweather out, now Pacquiao on the other hand I can see because Pac has no defense! Ray and Hearns have killer right hands with radars on them. Mayweather has super defense that always causes his opponants to alter thier punches causing them to be off with thier timing, and missing. Nither Tommy or Ray has ever fought someone like Mayweather, sure Floyd Sr had the Philly shell defense but he did not perfect it, or had Mayweather jrs Speed, agilty foot work, or work ethic to be the best. Sr was a part time drug dealer, womeniser, drug user and alcohol drinker/ party man. These things will greatly affect your career, just ask Roy jones,Mike Tyson, Zab Judah because they to were guilty of some of these bad habits. Hearns was a very emotional fighter, he would be easily out smarted by Mayweather jr. Its gonna take more than size,punching power and strength to beat Mayweather. Also Mayweather is strong himself, his body has matured well at 147-154. Hes very balanced. Hearns was very top heavy, which was part of the cause of being off balance and tiring late on those skinny legs. Ray was mentally strong, but he to could be bated into fighting the wrong fight. Just watch the 1st Duran fight. You will never see Mayweather jr fight the wrong fight. Always on point with the perfect game plan and stratergy! The proof is in the pudding! Just open your eyes and take the blinders off!

yeah pacquiao would likely have been KOed more than PBF... but sometimes u have to wonder, chop-chop and shane were able to send PBF on ***** street last time they fought... then you think about if it was ray or hearns who had made those punches?

ray and tommy never fought sum1 like PBF? does the name wilfredo benitez ring a bell? like PBF, benitez was a defense oriented counter-puncher except that the puerto rican has faced higher quality opposition than mayweather...

what about duran? duran was a counter-puncher who possesed an excellent defense! the guy was versatile as hell...

and leonard being forced to fight duran's fight.... here... quit the nuthugging and read with an open mind...

http://www.thesweetscience.com/artic...-roberto-duran

[djtmal]

man--whatever--of course people are going to say this? it don't mean ****---the hate for floyd is uncaany but who cares--he competes in any era and becomes a top fighter in any era, period...the kid has never lost--never been officially knocked down and hearns, hagler, duran and srl all have lost and been knocked down--so stop with this--floyd told srl one time that srl wouldn't be a top 10 fighter in floyd's era and floyd said this to srl himself, not an interview---floyd is possible the most skilled fighter overall in the history of the sport, meaning every era----

we don't know what would have happened---and floyd sr is nowhere near floyd jr so get the hell out of here---

floyd honed his skills much better than his father ever did--he focused more and adapted better but of course floyd sr taught floyd his stuff, but it took floyd jr. to master it----

although i agree that, fmj would have been a top competitor in any era @ welterweight, it would be hard for me to fathom, that fmj, giving his current competition @ 147, would have been at the top of the heap, in the era in which hearns, srl, hagler, benitez, & duran boxed, had fmj, had to line up those five fighters alone, back to back....especially in an era, where you had way fewer alphabet organizations...and by all means that is no disrespect, to de la hoya, hatton, cotto, marquez, or ortiz...

the reason why benitez, hagler, srl, hearns, & duran lost, as you pointed out, is because they were all atg's, willing to fight each other...my favorite fighter, hagler, had only 1 knockdown, which could have easily been ruled a slip, in his entire career, but hagler also, avenged the two losses, and the draw, early in his career, and hadn't lost for years, until losing to sugar ray leonard, after 62 wins, my man...and srl, had shown time and again, that he could be outboxed, or outskilled, but srl, was going to dig deep, and, snatch a victory, from the jaws of defeat...these are intangibles, that fmj, hasn't really had to display in a fight against a fellow atg or arch nemesis, so, those are the intangibles, that are most unknown, about fmj right now, that i think would pull him even, in a fantasy fight with srl...

[NearHypnos]

yeah pacquiao would likely have been KOed more than PBF... but sometimes u have to wonder, chop-chop and shane were able to send PBF on ***** street last time they fought... then you think about if it was ray or hearns who had made those punches?

ray and tommy never fought sum1 like PBF? does the name wilfredo benitez ring a bell? like PBF, benitez was a defense oriented counter-puncher except that the puerto rican has faced higher quality opposition than mayweather...

what about duran? duran was a counter-puncher who possesed an excellent defense! the guy was versatile as hell...

and leonard being forced to fight duran's fight.... here... quit the nuthugging and read with an open mind...

http://www.thesweetscience.com/artic...-roberto-duran

This.

You'd think Benitez never fought with how quickly people forget about him.


Hearns I could see brutally knocking out Pac, MAYBE Floyd. I could see Hearns WTF KOing Pac, and maybe not KOing Floyd, but beating the living hell out of him and just teeing off at any body part. I don't think SRL does though, I mean maybe Pac..but I don't know about Floyd. Floyd could just turtle up the rest of the fight and "survive". I don't see how any of them would have defended against Hearns, particularly Pac. Hearns would be a nightmare of a matchup for Pac. The kind you wouldn't even need to see to know what was going to happen. Call me crazy, but I think the Floyd and SRL could be competitive. Would Floyd win? I don't know about THAT, but I don't think he'd get shut out.

[Poet682006]

He beat that version of Oscar pretty easily and clearly I thought.

115-113 Mayweather
115-113 De La Hoya
116-112 Mayweather

That's hardly a whitewash. And considering that was a washed-up Oscar it ought to raise an eyebrow. Floyd also had his track shoes on.....that sort of thing USED to be frowned upon by the judges.

Poet

[IronDanHamza]

115-113 Mayweather
115-113 De La Hoya
116-112 Mayweather

That's hardly a whitewash. And considering that was a washed-up Oscar it ought to raise an eyebrow. Floyd also had his track shoes on.....that sort of thing USED to be frowned upon by the judges.

Poet

Oh yeah, the judges scorecard's didn't indicate a dominant fight. But, the judges scorecards were pretty awful. Lord knows how one of them had Oscar winning.

I personally thought Mayweather pretty much dominated the fight. I give Oscar no more than 3-4 rounds. And that's being generous, to be honest.

[allupnem]

Hearns ko's Mayweather easily once Mayweathers back touches the ropes and he does the same to Pacquiao. Leonard also beats both handily. Leonard and Hearns are by far the best WW's in my life time (1962)

[Poet682006]

Oh yeah, the judges scorecard's didn't indicate a dominant fight. But, the judges scorecards were pretty awful. Lord knows how one of them had Oscar winning.

I personally thought Mayweather pretty much dominated the fight. I give Oscar no more than 3-4 rounds. And that's being generous, to be honest.

You don't win rounds by running.....Oscar found that out against Trinidad :cool9:

Poet

[Roman Moreno]

You don't win rounds by running.....Oscar found that out against Trinidad :cool9:

Poet

Oscar won 3 rounds in that fight, 4 if you're completely generous.

Floyd didn't barely win that fight. He clearly won that fight and it wasn't close. LOL @ bringing the judges scorecard like a noob. C'mon Poet you should be better than that.