Pacquiao doesn't get enough credit for Marquez fights

[nicamarvin]

You don't need a rematch when you beat someone decisively, like Floyd-JMM or the fight was scripted like Clottey-Manny.

thatīs right! JMM almost got gattied and this Paktards want a rematch just because Pac got schooled by Marquez? wow, poor losers canīt stand it

[hugh grant]

You don't need a rematch when you beat someone decisively, like Floyd-JMM or the fight was scripted like Clottey-Manny.

You dont need a rematch when you beat someone decisively? Is that a new rule in the floyd fanatic rulebook? Even if a fight is close there is no NEED to have a rematch, but you have one as you want one!

Many fighters have lost convincly but were given rematches as they wanted another chance to redeem themselves. So Pac didnt beat Barrera convincly, yet gave him a rematch? Didnt morales beat Pac unanimous decision, yet gave Pac a rematch? Pac improved and won. JMM can improve and hed win against Floyd. Thats how it works.

Floyd has got an empty diary most of the times so why no rematch if he isnt fighting anyone else dangerous, or even fighting anyone. Rematches make sense, a whole load of sense.

[Brother Jay]

Oh so i guess you are admitting Castillo beat Floyd, in Castillo and Floyd threads, soory my mistake.

Look through the site, clown.

I've given my honest opinion on Floyd/Castillo more than once on these boards.

I don't lie for ANY boxer because unlike you .. I am a fan of boxing not any one particular fighter.

Since I've said ^^^ that a lot of short rounds have been repeating it but not showing a love or working knowledge of the sport.

You being one of them, idiot.

[Pin Galarga]

Its hard to get credit while loosing a fight and getting a gift split D again. Credit needs to be earned.

[solo20]

FREDDIE ROACH ADMITS he thought JMM age was going to cacth up to him. so the only reason they fought him was becaues they thought he was past it
CHERRYPICK GONE WRONG skip to 53 mark on the the video

[Brother Jay]

Great post, I completely agree

Ive said it before

Pacquiao, fights a guy, whos terrible for his style and has his number, and still gets a victory out of it...even if he didnt get the win, he made the fights close

But all people can say is marquez got robbed

They never look at the fact Pac faught a guy he knew gives his fighting style fits...and still gave the fans what they wanted

Wait a minute ....

Why would anyone give Pacquiao credit for making JMM wait three years for a third rematch?

Arum marketed Pacquiao as some phenom who was new, improved and unstoppable. Many thought JMM came back from the three knockdowns and took the match. Manny got off with draw.

Morales embarrassed Pacquiao once the lab required a new sample of clean blood and Manny had days to produce a clean sample.

Then most thought JMM beat Manny in the second.

Then Manny avoided the rematch for three years hoping JMM would lose a step and people are supposed to give credit for that shit?

No sir. That is an obvious way of looking for good things to say about cowardice.

Manny was supposed to blow JMM out of the water like fishing with dynamite. He got schooled and everyone at ringside other than the judges thought so. That includes Manny's own stablemate Amir Khan who said as much on live telecast.

The people who say differently say so now after watching the fight 3 and 4 times .. looking for reasons to say good and kind things about Pacquiao. They need slow motion replays and specific segments to be played to make Pacquiao seem like he did more than he really did.

Who needs to do such things to score a fight? What real fan needs slow motion or 5 replays to get an idea of what happened? Was it foggy in the ring that night? Was there mist involved?

That's pure nonsense. Just because JMM gives Manny problems isn't a reason to compliment Manny himself. What kind of ****** reasoning is that? If someone is better, then they are just better. And JMM is better. I've watched him outbox Manny on three different occasion and then get shafted by the judges.

If anything, JMM should be the one getting credit because he's still willing to fight Manny knowing that ANYTHING short of a KO will end up in a robbery no matter what kind of lead he's built up.

[hugh grant]

These Pac haters write their own script. They make out as if Pac waited 3 years and then called JMM out?

When the reality is we know it is JMM was like a fly around a cows backside around manny calling Pac out. Wearing t ****s with i beat Pac twice, similar to haye wearing t shirt of klitscho head in his hands. Pac beat JMM twice and didnt want him again. JMM should have wore "floyd bloated me up tshirts" to try and get a rematch with floyd.

JMM wouldnt go away. We know JMM trained for Pac for years, like Floyd trained for JMM for 2 years, whereas Pac was sidetracked didnt expect to be fighting JMM. But thought he could just turn up on the night and hit JMM and hed sleep.

[Brother Jay]

These Pac haters write their own script. They make out as if Pac waited 3 years and then called JMM out?

When the reality is we know it is JMM was like a fly around a cows backside around manny calling Pac out. Wearing t ****s with i beat Pac twice, similar to haye wearing t shirt of klitscho head in his hands.

JMM wouldnt go away. We know JMM trained for Pac for years, like Floyd trained for JMM for 2 years, whereas Pac was sidetracked didnt expect to be fighting JMM. But thought he could just turn up on the night and hit JMM and hed sleep.

You do realize that JMM was trying to get a rematch immediately, right?

Manny avoided JMM, and so JMM decided to one up Pacquiao and challenged Mayweather instead.

Manny always says "I want the fight that the people want to see". If that's so, then why did he ignore the people for 3 years and not hear them screaming for a rematch with JMM. There clearly was unfinished business.

This isn't anything new from Pacquiao.

Does anyone think its a coincidence that the last fighter rated in the top 3 of any division that Pacquiao fought was JMM in 2008 .. and then the next top 3 rated fighter Manny faced AFTER that was JMM in 2011?

Its doesn't sound like Manny just avoided Juan Manuel Marquez ... it appears that Pacquiao avoided ANY top 3 rated fighter PERIOD!

Wow. And if that wasn't bad enough, every fighter that Pacquiao faced since Diaz was coming off of a huge loss excluding meaningless tune ups .. until he fought JMM in 2011!!!

If you have the education, do the math.

[New England]

Most of the boxing world, including boxers and writers, had Marquez winning the 3rd fight. Guess they don't know anything about scoring fights either?

9-3 or 8-4

every single time i watch it


pretty horrible fight, too.

making a fight like that exciting is the responsibility of the aggressor.

marquez winning a pacquiao fight?
probably not a barnburner. 38 year old counterpuncher without any of the physical advantages

[Fix]

I tell you i watched that fight 3 times.. first 2 times i had Marquez winning BIG.. i was one of the guys saying its a crazy robbery.. but the third time i did the scores.. somehow i had Pac winning the fight by 1 point.. i had to b!tch out and score 3 rounds a draw.. Marquez workrate dropped quite a lot towards the end of the fight..

So from having Marquez winning CLEARLY first two viewings to actually having Pacquiao winning by an almost insignificant amount on the third watch.. bottom line it was a hell of a close fight which could go either way..

im gonna watch it again and see what score i come up this time..