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  • richardt
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    #31
    [QUOTE=New England;11944225]vitali's punch blew out his knee? do you really believe that?QUOTE]When a fighter is jogging, they are using muscles that work in tandem and balance and that is different from fighting. When a fighter is hit, it can both cause extra pressure on the knee based on leg positioning that can cause it to give out, OR the blow can cause the off balance situation to then cause the knee to give out, or both. The bottom line is the punch caused a chain reaction that ONLY occured when Solis was hit with all the positioning and dynamics as well as Vitali's power.
    Last edited by richardt; 03-28-2012, 01:04 PM.

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    • caredjo
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      #32
      I like this a lot

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      • edgarg
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        #33
        Originally posted by RA-Box
        Not true. Sorry, but that punch was nothing and definitely didn't cause a KO, or KD or anything. Vitali is skilled, but is not a one-punch KO artist. He's more of a volume puncher, as can be seen by the Adamek, Arreola, and Briggs fights.

        Weight on the knee, torn ligament, down he goes. It happens in sports and boxing is no different.
        I didn't say that Klitschko was a 1 punch artist, in point of actual fact almost no fighter is. A KO is normally a culmination of either a solid beating or a series of previous KD's. You only see the end result on Youube without knowing what happened previously. Boxers have terrific recuperative powers.

        I deal only in fact and well considered scrutiny. Although whether klitscko was a 1 punch KO fighter or not, he did KO 11 of his first 17 stoppages. But as I recall many of them, the final KO's were preceded by more than one KD, and always heavy beatings.

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        • edgarg
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          #34
          Originally posted by richardt
          Exactly! Solis was standing up till he was hit with that punch. The punch began a chain reaction. VERY easy to see by anyone who isn't biased against Vitali or a Solis fan, or both. Your description was right on the money.
          Yes, you know if you see a lot of boxing you can see that it's only comparatively rarely that a single punch will induce immediate unconsciousness. Boxers have terrific recovery powers, and will instinctively grope to stand up even when their senses are completely scattered and they don't know what they're doing. It was a matter of Solis having been stunned out of his wits, causing him to lose control of his legs and his balance. He would have fallen anyway, but he fell in the wrong direction. Out of control you might say, like an aeroplane falling from the sky.

          I posted yesterday of a fight I saw about 15 years ago, where a fellow named jimmy Thunder walked straight out and completely KO'd his opponent with the very first punch, the whole fight took about 12-13 secs. Just now, talking about fighter instinct to fight, I recall that when they were trying to bring the guy around, he was still out, with his eyes tightly closed but throwing punches all around him. They had to hold his arms tightly until he woke up. I'll never forget it. You only see this rarely.

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          • richardt
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            #35
            Originally posted by edgarg
            jimmy Thunder walked straight out and completely KO'd his opponent with the very first punch
            Yeah, I saw that fight with Crawford Grimsley. He had just come off a UD loss to Foreman. I really liked Jimmy Thunder. Nothing special, just a fighting heart.

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            • RA-Box
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              #36
              Originally posted by edgarg
              Yes, you know if you see a lot of boxing you can see that it's only comparatively rarely that a single punch will induce immediate unconsciousness. Boxers have terrific recovery powers, and will instinctively grope to stand up even when their senses are completely scattered and they don't know what they're doing. It was a matter of Solis having been stunned out of his wits, causing him to lose control of his legs and his balance. He would have fallen anyway, but he fell in the wrong direction. Out of control you might say, like an aeroplane falling from the sky.
              Thanks for the chuckle, but no. Vitali brushing Solis' hair didn't cause anything. But hey, it's just my opinion.

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              • klitschkobrofan
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                #37
                Originally posted by RA-Box
                Not true. Sorry, but that punch was nothing and definitely didn't cause a KO, or KD or anything. Vitali is skilled, but is not a one-punch KO artist. He's more of a volume puncher, as can be seen by the Adamek, Arreola, and Briggs fights.

                Weight on the knee, torn ligament, down he goes. It happens in sports and boxing is no different.
                How about his fight with Herbie Hide. Almost the same type of punch that ended the fight.

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                  #38
                  Solis was winning the round, and Vitali was clearly frustrated.

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                  • bojangles1987
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                    #39
                    Is he going to be so out of shape that his knee blows out just from getting punched again?

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                    • JmH Reborn
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                      Solis was winning the round, and Vitali was clearly frustrated.

                      Such a great first round from Solis. 12 rounds of solid lefts and overhand rights and Vitali would've been dethroned. Shame that his leg locked up like that. I hope he heals up good and gets a rematch.

                      Its clear that he has the hand speed and skills to be the best in the division, now its time to get the work ethic to make his body form into one of a proper HW champ.

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