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  • RA-Box
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    #21
    Originally posted by edgarg
    With Solis, he was hit on the head, momentarily stunned, lost equilibrium, feet stayed in relatively the same spot whilst his body fell at the wrong angle. It was all very carefully documented at the time, with slo-mo closeups over and over again for every part of his lower legs and feet. he went down so fast, from a light looking blow, that it was thought that he had faked the KO. it was only when he got up that it was realised that his knee had ruptured.

    Although it only seemed a glancing blow, a Klittschko glancing blow, if its in the right spot, can make you see stars. And this was legit. And of course he needs to fight at about 225-30.
    Not true. Sorry, but that punch was nothing and definitely didn't cause a KO, or KD or anything. Vitali is skilled, but is not a one-punch KO artist. He's more of a volume puncher, as can be seen by the Adamek, Arreola, and Briggs fights.

    Weight on the knee, torn ligament, down he goes. It happens in sports and boxing is no different.

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      #22
      Solis 2012>>>>>> prime Haye

      I have a strong su****ion that Solis might very well have beaten vitali if he diddent blow his knee.

      And get the **** out of here with the vitali knocking him ou with that one punch BS.

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        #23
        Originally posted by RA-Box
        No, sorry. The Klitschko's are undoubtedly the best Heavyweights right now, but they are not the most talented.

        Physically gifted, yes. Most dominant, yes.

        Most talented, no.

        most talented:

        yes

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          #24
          Talent ONLY counts when it can overcome will, desire, conditioning, determination, motivation, self-belief. Many so-called talented fighters have lost to fighters who had the ability to overcome the odds. If talent gets its @$$ knocked out in 1 round, everyone would rather be in the shoes of the "'less talented" fighter who scored the KO any day.

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            #25
            Solis was fine till he got hit in the head with the punch. Not arguable whatsoever. The extra weight came from a solid punch travelling downward on a shorter fighter which then caused the knee to give out. He was hurt by the head shot and the ensuing cause and affect. The punch started the whole thing. Live with it.
            Last edited by richardt; 03-28-2012, 11:48 AM.

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              #26
              And "talent" doesn't struggle with Ray Austin and another club fighter. Wlad has far more talent than Solis. Not arguable.

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                #27
                Originally posted by RA-Box
                Not true. Sorry, but that punch was nothing and definitely didn't cause a KO, or KD or anything. Vitali is skilled, but is not a one-punch KO artist. He's more of a volume puncher, as can be seen by the Adamek, Arreola, and Briggs fights.

                Weight on the knee, torn ligament, down he goes. It happens in sports and boxing is no different.
                I covered all your expected objections in my pre-emptive post, and described exactly what happened, almost step by step in detail. He couldn't resume boxing by count of 10 That's a KO..you know this. I didn't say he was KO'd just by the punch. I also believe that the fight wouldn' have lasted more than 6-7 rds anyway.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by New England
                  most talented:

                  yes
                  Well, he is fast, and he can move, but that's all he's shown in 17 fights not one of which was anything to write home about.

                  Although it's not exacly the same thing, Buster Mathis was also even faster and moved extremely well, but when he met Frazier, whom he'd walked all over in the amateurs, he was eventually beaten down in about 10 or more rds. I saw that fight, Mathis was a lot better than Solis. and I remember him very well, and followed his career. He was another Fat Willie Meehan.
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by edgarg
                    I didn't say he was KO'd just by the punch
                    Exactly! Solis was standing up till he was hit with that punch. The punch began a chain reaction. VERY easy to see by anyone who isn't biased against Vitali or a Solis fan, or both. Your description was right on the money.
                    Last edited by richardt; 03-28-2012, 12:57 PM.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by richardt
                      Solis was fine till he got hit in the head with the punch. Not arguable whatsoever. The extra weight came from a solid punch travelling downward on a shorter fighter which then caused the knee to give out. He was hurt by the head shot and the ensuing cause and affect. The punch started the whole thing. Live with it.


                      lol if you think his knee would have blown out if he were in top condition you are sorely mistaken


                      vitali's punch blew out his knee? do you really believe that?


                      solis got hit by a big right hand that hurt him, he puts his weight oddly on his knee when he staggers // sits back, and then it goes. if he were running 5 miles a day and he werent 40 lbs overweight that would not have happened. knees on people with a premium level of conditioning dont blow out that easily. it had nothing to do with the punch directly. the punch is what caused him to lose his legs, but the punch doesnt tear the ligament directly. that's asinine.


                      he got up grabbing the wrong knee. he had no idea where he was. his legs went, his weight blew out his knee upon traveling to the ground and encountering resistance (his legs.)

                      nobody in his right mind will argue that it's not a kayo 1
                      Last edited by New England; 03-28-2012, 01:01 PM.

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