Is Ortiz the Next Undisputed Champ At 147?

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  • turbotime
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    #51
    Originally posted by P4P_No1
    I think Ortiz has all the tools to be a real beast at this division except for one fatal fall...the guy is mentally so weak its untrue. That will be his biggest downfall. If he had that Maidana/Rios type attitude, he could really do some damage but I think unified champ is a bit of a stretch.

    But there's no doubt once Pac & May ride off into the sunset, the 147 division is wide open.

    My money's on Bradley running it.
    Bradley is very possible. Depends on how bad Pac beats him up and what he does after.

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      #52
      I would agree with Bradley also, regardless of IF he loses to Pacquiao, I still see Bradley being one of the top fighters at Welterweight once Pacquiao and Mayweather are done

      in fact I think he beats all of the fighters at 140-147 RIGHT NOW who are not names Pacquiao or Mayweather that is just how good he is, some refuse to give the guy his credit but that is OK, they will be trying to jump on the Bandwagon when he is still at the top of the Welterweight Division and is a Top 5 P4P Fighter
      Last edited by KnockUTheFukOut; 03-22-2012, 08:01 PM.

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        #53
        Originally posted by Roman Moreno
        Meh, not really because I know who Berto beat to get that title.

        No bueno sir.

        But, the point was that neither is likely to happen.
        mickey rodriguez is a legend! you probably think morales and broner aren't real champs either right? stop hating! they beat those bums fair and square.

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          #54
          Originally posted by daggum
          mickey rodriguez is a legend! you probably think morales and broner aren't real champs either right? stop hating! they beat those bums fair and square.
          I know crime is high in Mexico but they shouldn't have fired him from the force cuz' he took the Berto.

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            #55
            Originally posted by turbotime
            Bradley is very possible. Depends on how bad Pac beats him up and what he does after.


            i agree that bradley is one of the top dogs. it's really all about how long floyd mayweather sticks around at 147 or in boxing.

            we will find out exactly what bradley's got when he fight's manny pacquiao

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              #56
              Originally posted by Roman Moreno
              I know crime is high in Mexico but they shouldn't have fired him from the force cuz' he took the Berto.
              look at the correlation between the rise in crime and mickey's firing. not a coincidence. mickey was there to lay down the law and set people straight. big mistake.

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                #57
                Originally posted by New England
                i agree that bradley is one of the top dogs. it's really all about how long floyd mayweather sticks around at 147 or in boxing.

                we will find out exactly what bradley's got when he fight's manny pacquiao
                floyd might pop up from time to time if baldomir/mosley score a huge upset but other than that he's gonna let the prime guys fight it out among themselves. all time great stuff.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by KnockUTheFukOut
                  I would agree with Bradley also, regardless of IF he loses to Pacquiao, I still see Bradley being one of the top fighters at Welterweight once Pacquiao and Mayweather are done

                  in fact I think he beats all of the fighters at 140-147 RIGHT NOW who are not names Pacquiao or Mayweather that is just how good he is, some refuse to give the guy his credit but that is OK, they will be trying to jump on the Bandwagon when he is still at the top of the Welterweight Division and is a Top 5 P4P Fighter


                  i cant see him in any sound top 5 right now any way you slice it, but he's certainly one of the more proven fighters out there. he's well rounded. maybe a bit small and he is a light puncher. he makes up for it though. he's got a lot going for him


                  i still think pacquiao is going to get going earlier and with more success than he did against marquez, who is a great counterpuncher who had 24 rounds to study pacquiao before the third fight. the speed and the foot motion andthe odd southpaw angles of pacquiao's shots will give anybody problems. he cant put things together like he used to with the constant in and out motion a la de la hoya, but i think he'll put a little sizzle on bradley and it will be enough to make him look ordinary in spots.


                  pacquiao UD

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by daggum
                    floyd might pop up from time to time if baldomir/mosley score a huge upset but other than that he's gonna let the prime guys fight it out among themselves. all time great stuff.


                    lol. you sauced, chief?

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by New England
                      lol. you sauced, chief?
                      :lol: Drunk on that haterade

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