What will Mayweather's excuse be to avoid the Martinez fight?

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Please tell me you're not implying that Martinez vs Floyd will be like Marquez vs Floyd, please

No, Marquez is the 3rd p4p fighter.

[PACnPBFsuck]

No, Marquez is the 3rd p4p fighter.

Where??????

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Mosley was past his prime for sure when he met Floyd in 2010. That doesn't mean it was a bad fight at that time though, given what Shane had done. He was coming off knocking Margarito out, which elevated him to the Top 5 P4P, and he was seen as the next best WW aside from Floyd and Manny. Arum and Roach, as well as a ton of fans, said Floyd wouldn't go anywhere near him after he knocked Margarito out. He did, and now it's a "cherry pick", get the f**k outta here. It's like when people say Whitaker was a cherry pick for Oscar. Yes, Pernell was past his prime, and he arguably beat Oscar, but he was still the #1 ranked WW in the world and hadn't even really lost a fight at all. That wasn't Oscar cherry picking an old Whitaker.

Just like Floyd wasn't cherry picking Mosley in 2010. Pac refused random testing, Mosley-Berto was off, and Floyd fought Mosley. Everybody and their brother was saying from Mid 2009-early 2010 that Shane deserved to be in the discussion of a mega-fight with Floyd and Manny. Oh and by the way, Roach and Manny both said they'd only fight Shane at 142 lbs at that time. But when Shane got whupped by Floyd and arguably lost to Mora, he was all of a sudden a good fight.

It's ridiculous the double standard that people have on here. Like with JMM arguably beating Pac again, this time at 144, people just say "They are so evenly matched, Marquez is just such a great fighter". But, when it comes to Floyd shutting Marquez out at 144 over 2 years earlier, people say "Marquez was fighting at 144, easy fight for Floyd", and people still refuse to give him credit for that win, even though an even older JMM arguably just beat Manny at the exact same weight.

It's insanity.

Great post. It's also funny how the people that bash the Floyd and Mosley fight also forget that PACQUIAO DUCKED Mosley in 2009 when Mosley was calling him out.

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Where??????

Wherever someone with a brain makes a P4P list.

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Mosley was past his prime for sure when he met Floyd in 2010. That doesn't mean it was a bad fight at that time though, given what Shane had done. He was coming off knocking Margarito out, which elevated him to the Top 5 P4P, and he was seen as the next best WW aside from Floyd and Manny. Arum and Roach, as well as a ton of fans, said Floyd wouldn't go anywhere near him after he knocked Margarito out. He did, and now it's a "cherry pick", get the f**k outta here. It's like when people say Whitaker was a cherry pick for Oscar. Yes, Pernell was past his prime, and he arguably beat Oscar, but he was still the #1 ranked WW in the world and hadn't even really lost a fight at all. That wasn't Oscar cherry picking an old Whitaker.

Just like Floyd wasn't cherry picking Mosley in 2010. Pac refused random testing, Mosley-Berto was off, and Floyd fought Mosley. Everybody and their brother was saying from Mid 2009-early 2010 that Shane deserved to be in the discussion of a mega-fight with Floyd and Manny. Oh and by the way, Roach and Manny both said they'd only fight Shane at 142 lbs at that time. But when Shane got whupped by Floyd and arguably lost to Mora, he was all of a sudden a good fight.

It's ridiculous the double standard that people have on here. Like with JMM arguably beating Pac again, this time at 144, people just say "They are so evenly matched, Marquez is just such a great fighter". But, when it comes to Floyd shutting Marquez out at 144 over 2 years earlier, people say "Marquez was fighting at 144, easy fight for Floyd", and people still refuse to give him credit for that win, even though an even older JMM arguably just beat Manny at the exact same weight.

It's insanity.

Insanity driven by hate because Floyd threatens their hero the most so he gets the most hate , they hate on everyone who is at all negative or questions their hero ,,,,,, fanboys that are boxing dumb they got nothing else but flip flopping insanity !

[Atreyu Khalil]

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Great post. It's also funny how the people that bash the Floyd and Mosley fight also forget that PACQUIAO DUCKED Mosley in 2009 when Mosley was calling him out.

People just love to forget that Pac has also not gotten to fight everyone as well. People like to say Floyd didn't fight Tszyu (even though they were negotiating a Floyd-Tszyu fight to happen after Floyd-Gatti and Tszyu-Hatton. Tszyu lost and Floyd fought Ricky Hatton in 07', oh well) or Margarito, oh well. If I'm not mistaken, didn't Manny end up not fighting Zahir Raheem after he beat Morales??? Also, didn't he end up not fighting Joan Guzman at 130??? And Andre Berto in 2010/early 2011??? And Victor Ortiz in 2011???

I even remember seeing posts on this site before I was registered here, back in April/May 2011, with people saying "Ortiz vs. Pacquiao, great fight, hope it gets done. The 2 highest rated WW's and Ortiz just whupped Berto's a$$", as well as other posts along the lines of "Floyd will never fight Victor Ortiz after he just whupped Berto. He's way too much of a risk." Floyd comes off a 16 month layoff to fight Ortiz fresh off the Berto win, and it's Floyd "cherry picking" a "green" fighter???? Ortiz at 24 coming off a huge win, was still green and a cherry pick??? Ridiculous.

The same goes for people trying to s**t on the Bradley fight. To me, Pac gets as much credit for beating Bradley as Floyd did for Hatton, a really really good win. Bradley is Pac's first prime opponent since Solis, his best opponent selection since JMM in 08', and his first actual legit opponent selection since Cotto.

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Hahahaha!

What's funny about that is when they do it usually gets turned around on them

[Atreyu Khalil]

The same ones used for Pac. He .. he .. uuu hhh uuhh .. ehh self preservationn ehhh ehh.

[PACnPBFsuck]

Wherever someone with a brain makes a P4P list.

Anyone who has a brain can't have him 3rd, he lost to PAC.