Floyd needs to fight Sergio!!!

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  • S H A R K B O Y
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    #91
    You're just about as worst as the HBO crew tonight calling that a knockdown. Ridiculous.

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    • IronDanHamza
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      #92
      Originally posted by Carpe Diem
      Floyd's past southpaw opponents were the same size as him with the exception of Victor Ortiz who was physically strong, but very weak minded. The only way i could see Floyd beat him is if he make Martinez be the aggressive, and then rely on his speed and accuracy to counter him coming in. Floyd doesn't fight that way against southpaws, he take the fight to them, not the other way around. Unlike Manny, Sergio is comfortable at fighting backing up and he wouldn't be frustrate by it because it'd give himself the openings he needs to catch Floyd.
      He most certainly would.

      If a fighter boxs with him he gets visibly frustrated.

      He was against both Barker and Macklin ( @Macklin)

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        #93
        Originally posted by Russian Crushin
        Obviously its the opposition in front of him thats the problem
        Who else at MW beats him?

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          #94
          Originally posted by IronDanHamza
          Mosley dominated and stopped the #1 WW in the world whilst be a reasonably big underdog whereas Martinez, although getting the job done, hasn't looked great against Domestic level most of his career Darren Barker and Matthew Macklin who's a good fighter but nothing more.
          Nobody at MW will give him this stigma of being great or even looking great.. At the end of the day Martinez is doing exactly what he said he was going to do.... knock the guys out and he's done it for 4 fights in a row.

          Now he needs to fight Chavez Jr as at least Chavez jr brings a name to the table, which for a average fan will think its a great win.

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            #95
            Originally posted by IronDanHamza
            He most certainly would.

            If a fighter boxs with him he gets visibly frustrated.

            He was against both Barker and Macklin ( @Macklin)
            I think Macklin gets ridiculed here too much as a Sergio opponent. It's funny he got robbed against Felix Sturm. But if he got the nod against Strum, people woulda been like "Oh, he's good. He beat Felix Strum".

            That's why I say people just forget about robberies. Over time, people just start seeing robberies as actual wins and they no longer care about what actually happened.

            The truth is, this should have been Martinez coming off of an okay win over Barker vs a Macklin coming off a very good hard-fought win over Felix Strum. But thanks to the corruption in Germany/boxing, it's just Martinez vs a Macklin "who hasn't beaten anybody".

            Thank you boxing best sport in the world. With the best fans in the world.

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            • Carpe Diem
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              #96
              Originally posted by Russian Crushin
              Thing is he doesnt need to be agressive or anything like

              If Barker and Macklin can box and outbox Sergio at times, Floyd would have no problem


              I have yet to see Floyd box against southpaws. His whole strategy against them is to aggressively backing them up, and constantly beat them to the punches first. After he got caught against Corley, his uncle advised him to boxed Corley, he only did for one round, and then he went back to his aggressive attack strategy. With Sergio, he can't be doing that. Sergio has good/great footwork for a 37 years old[Ex-soccer player], underrated counter punching ability, good stamina, mental toughness, killer instincts, and the size to put Floyd at a disadvantage he has never been before.

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                #97
                Originally posted by Carpe Diem
                I have yet to see Floyd box against southpaws. His whole strategy against them is to aggressively backing them up, and constantly beat them to the punches first. After he got caught against Corley, his uncle advised him to boxed Corley, he only did for one round, and then he went back to his aggressive attack strategy. With Sergio, he can't be doing that. Sergio has good/great footwork for a 37 years old[Ex-soccer player], underrated counter punching ability, good stamina, mental toughness, killer instincts, and the size to put Floyd at a disadvantage he has never been before.
                Floyd was brawling on purpose cause people were calling him boring he switched up tp boxing in that fight and whooped corley

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                  He most certainly would.

                  If a fighter boxs with him he gets visibly frustrated.

                  He was against both Barker and Macklin ( @Macklin)
                  He didn't retreat and never lost his composure though. As i said, Floyd doesn't take the JMM/Hopkins approach against southpaws, he take the fight to them. An average size WW trying to walking down a legit 160lbs southpaw[he's no Victor Ortiz], it wouldn't be a smart strategy at all.

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by EngorgedW/Blood
                    I think Macklin gets ridiculed here too much as a Sergio opponent. It's funny he got robbed against Felix Sturm. But if he got the nod against Strum, people woulda been like "Oh, he's good. He beat Felix Strum".

                    That's why I say people just forget about robberies. Over time, people just start seeing robberies as actual wins and they no longer care about what actually happened.

                    The truth is, this should have been Martinez coming off of an okay win over Barker vs a Macklin coming off a very good hard-fought win over Felix Strum. But thanks to the corruption in Germany/boxing, it's just Martinez vs a Macklin "who hasn't beaten anybody".

                    Thank you boxing best sport in the world. With the best fans in the world.
                    I agree Macklin is a good fighter. World level, atleast.

                    It's a legit fight IMO, but nothing to shout about.

                    I was laughing at the fact he was getting frustrated by Macklin's Boxing.

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                      #100
                      martinez would have to wait a while for this one. if mayweather decides to fight in late 2012, it'd be alvarez over martinez for sure. that'd mean he could get a crack at mayweather anywhere from early-mid 2013. by that time, i think arum/pacquiao would finally want to make it happen. if not good though, that means it'd happen then.
                      lots of possibilities once mayweather is out. alvarez would probably fight before mayweather gets out or before he schedules his next fight (after prison). hopefully it's kirkland/molina winner, that'd be a great win for him to have before facing mayweather. not sure if this all happens though.
                      anyways, only way i see martinez winning is by knockout. fat chance though since mayweather is the best defensively sound fighter around. that, or he'd have to depend on being more active than mayweather, but then again, i doubt he's more precise. either way, it'd be great fight for both men and their careers (imo), hopefully it happens. as a martinez fan, i think he deserves that payday, and hopefully wins.

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