Why did Floyd-Oscar sell so much?

[Roman Moreno]

Hatton had a big fanbase but he was never really a big PPV draw. What were his #s before Floyd?

How many PPV fights did he have before Floyd? He had very good ratings, and a very good crowd for Collazo. Did he not? So he was a draw, we can't judge how much of a PPV draw he was before Floyd. Because, he wasn't on a PPV. That does mean though that he wasn't a PPV draw. And, didn't help tremendously against Floyd.

Which is the best 24/7 ever? IMO Floyd-Hatton. I haven't seen a better 24/7 than that one. Why? Because, both are characters. Neither guy try to play the good guy image like Oscar and Pac. Neither guy is quiet and reserved like Cotto. Both are characters which made it the best 24/7 IMO.

Now you take all that into account it helps sell PPV. For you to say that Hatton isn't a PPV draw so insinuating that Floyd did most of those PPV by himself is laughable.

If Hatton isn't a PPV draw then Pac-Hatton wouldn't have done as much. Unelss we naively think that Pac carried that PPV by himself.

[Roman Moreno]

You in LA?

Not anymore

i was born in east los angeles ....... not sure what are you're referring too but i always remember watching de la hoya fights and the "cholos" were there... maybe you're right about them not fully supporting them but they damn sure watched , and i remember that

Just because you watch doesn't mean you support them in a sense of rooting for them. I never watched Oscar and never rooted for dude since Chicanito. People watch Floyd and don't support. Just an example.

Mexicans, mainly cholos backed Vargas up. A lot of Mexicans disliked Oscar cuz' of Chavez. A lot of cholos disliked Oscar cuz' of Vargas.

[Porter's Dad]

Honestly, it's only since the JMM could you truly say Floyd has become a huge PPV star.

Even for the Hatton fight, it was Ricky who was the bigger draw.

The JMM fight was the one where Floyd established that he didn't need someone with a huge fanbase to do big numbers. I remember people predicting really bad numbers for that fight, and being amazed when it did 1m+.

Same for Pac. You realised he was becoming huge when he did big numbers/huge crowd against Clottey.

[American Dream]

because Floyd is a marketing genuis, who created 24/7, which created the buzz for the match-up..because he sells his persona outside the ring...and because he backs it up inside the ring.

[Roman Moreno]

Honestly, it's only since the JMM could you truly say Floyd has become a huge PPV star.

Even for the Hatton fight, it was Ricky who was the bigger draw.

The JMM fight was the one where Floyd established that he didn't need someone with a huge fanbase to do big numbers. I remember people predicting really bad numbers for that fight, and being amazed when it did 1m+.

Same for Pac. You realised he was becoming huge when he did big numbers/huge crowd against Clottey.

I wouldn't say Hatton was the bigger draw. But, he was draw. Floyd was still the A-side of that event.

[Atreyu Khalil]

Honestly, it's only since the JMM could you truly say Floyd has become a huge PPV star.

Even for the Hatton fight, it was Ricky who was the bigger draw.

The JMM fight was the one where Floyd established that he didn't need someone with a huge fanbase to do big numbers. I remember people predicting really bad numbers for that fight, and being amazed when it did 1m+.

Same for Pac. You realised he was becoming huge when he did big numbers/huge crowd against Clottey.

Hatton was the draw on his 1st PPV?

[Deevel916]

It was the most promoted fight in the history of our sport in addition to the installment of 24/7. It was also seen at the time as "The fight to save boxing". Oscar was the ppv king and Floyd played a good heal. The ultimate good guy vs bad guy. Too bad it didnt live up to its hype.

[Porter's Dad]

I wouldn't say Hatton was the bigger draw. But, he was draw. Floyd was still the A-side of that event.

It's arguable. Going into his fights with both Floyd and Pac, Ricky was bringing in a huge amount of fans and exposure. Floyd versus anyone at the time would not have been elevated to the levels it was with Hatton.

Bigger draw might be the wrong phrase to describe Hatton. But I don't think he was the B-Side at all in that fight.

[Atreyu Khalil]

because Floyd is a marketing genuis, who created 24/7, which created the buzz for the match-up..because he sells his persona outside the ring...and because he backs it up inside the ring.

Everyone wants to see Mayweather lose....

Just like Cassius said in an interview before the Liston fight....


Q: Are you aware that many people would like nothing better than to see you get a good beating?

A: Maybe so, but that don’t bother me at all. The way I figure it, they’ll keep on paying to see me fight. I don’t care if they’re for me or against me. Just so long as they keep coming. And by the way, can you or anybody else name that guy who’s gonna give me that beating?

[check hook]

Because it was Oscar anf d Floyd. Both are big drawcards. In order imho:

- Tyson
- Oscar
- Floyd
- Manny


I'm not doing this simply by total PPV's sold or revenue, just my opinion on which fighters are the biggest drawcards in boxing ever. Tyson could sell over a mil fighting tomato cans and he did. He could sell over a mil 10 years out of his prime. No single boxer except Ali is as known throughout the palnet as Tyson is/was. Floyd and Oscar can't/couldn't do that. Ultimately i think Floyd will surpass Oscar on the list, but i don't think Tyson is getting knocked off his perch anytime soon.

At the end of the day it's likely Floyd's name could be attached to the top 3 PPv's all time. Not out of the question this PPV with Cotto could sell very very big numbers.