SMH @ Freddie. Roach "How about we drug test Floyd every month"

[The Big Dunn]

I agree but the same can and has to be said about Mayweather now also.

He also turned down an offer he accepted in December of 09.

Why? I can't answer that question.

It appears as if floyd is going to get a bigger split and OST so it looks like he may end up with a better deal. Also, Haymon and Shaffer have been slowly building Canelo for next cinco de mayo, have the Martinez option, and if Khan gets back on track, him in England.These appear to be very lucrative options that TR doesn't appear to have. ALso, cotto fight could do 1.5-1.7 mil ppv's.

Say this for AL Haymon/SChaffer, they had a better long term plan than Bob on this one.

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floyd came back out of retirement for what again??? ?? nobody is a challenger here, this is why this fight will never get made. floyd and his fans already thinking like they're on top. BOTH floyd and pac are the champions here to determine who will be #1. In this case there is no challenger, its like football, winner of the nfc vs winner of the afc for the superbowl.

whos the p4p #1 right now espn say it floyd

[sapaw]

Ring size is not standard. some are 18 x 18, others 20 x 20. Gloves can be 8oz or 10oz. WHy manny requested them I don't know you have to ask him. EIther way ther was no issue from floyd.
Did Pac ask SPECIAL ring size or gloves? NO. So how come its a demand?

50/50 is not fair if you are the larger draw. I'm sure in fights where manny is the larger draw you don't think 50/50 is a fair split. NOt fair?
as far as I remember, their previous fight, Pac-Cotto beat Marquez-Floyd... where are you that time?

As far as location, that was no issue when Manny refused OST. And even if you label the OST request special, its not such a big deal when BOTH fighters are taking the tests.
SO for you, "Floyd will not fight outside Las vegas" is not a demand coz Pac nod on it? lol! is that normal? a fighter who will not fight outside his home town?

OST, it will matter if its special request.. meaning not standard... Did pac tried to negotiate on that? yeah, it failed and I blamed on Pac Teams on that part but you keep on saying that Pac is always the one demanding while floyd only demand one thing is a ***** thing


Yes I am aware of the weight penalty.floyd missed the 144 lb limit vs JMM. He came in at 146. SO if the fight is at 147, floyd has never missed that weight.
How can you be sure he will not go over the limit? are you his nutritionist? In that case, whats the purpose of weighing into the scale one day before the fight if like you, you are sure that since the fighter is fighting on that weight class, you are sure that he will not go over the limit....?

Manny refused to take a 50/50 split because floyd wanted them both to take OST at a point where the fight was the closest to getting made. Manny is a grown man and made the decision to turn down the same offer he wants 30 months later.
When did PAc refused the 50/50? Drug test negotiation failed, yeah, more on Pac's team fault but in the first place, why all of sudden there is this SPECIAL TEST?

Sapaw if you were floyd, would you offer manny the same deal 30 months later?
YES, and why not? both are generating almsot same amount of PPVs... and why not? so why all of sudden the other guy refused the 50/50 when ALL (execpt *****s) believes that the fair split for both fighters?

I will ask you this, is 50/50 FAIR OR NOT?

^^^^^ there

[sapaw]

whos the p4p #1 right now espn say it floyd

its not ESPN p4p, its Dan's p4p.. can you read? its not the consolidated votes of ESP boxing writers unlike RING magazine, whose their voted p4p?

[The Big Dunn]

Its a compromise he made in order to get one of the biggest fights in the history of our sport made. What has Floyd compromised to get this fight done during the last 2 negotiations?

Nothing. Besides, ther is no need for other negotiaitions when you turn down the best deal initially. You can't expect to get a better deal or the same deal next time around. Of course you know this but because you are a manny fan you are pretending not to.

Lets say ytou wanted to buy this site. You offer reed $10 mil. Reedd says go **** yourself. # months later, reed is bankrupt and has to sell the site. You gonna offer him $10 mil?

HELL ****ING NO!!!!!

[PACsmash]

Does anyone know how much OST would cost for the entire year?

but if its to clean up the sport why not?? the main reason for floyd wanting OST is to clean up the sport right??? or is it just floyd's test??

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its not ESPN p4p, its Dan's p4p.. can you read? its not the consolidated votes of ESP boxing writers unlike RING magazine, whose their voted p4p?

ok dan of espn has him ranked #1 happy now

you forgot the n

[SplitSecond]

Nothing. Besides, ther is no need for other negotiaitions when you turn down the best deal initially. You can't expect to get a better deal or the same deal next time around. Of course you know this but because you are a manny fan you are pretending not to.

Lets say ytou wanted to buy this site. You offer reed $10 mil. Reedd says go **** yourself. # months later, reed is bankrupt and has to sell the site. You gonna offer him $10 mil?

HELL ****ING NO!!!!!

floyd is bankrupt?

[PACsmash]

Nothing. Besides, ther is no need for other negotiaitions when you turn down the best deal initially. You can't expect to get a better deal or the same deal next time around. Of course you know this but because you are a manny fan you are pretending not to.

Lets say ytou wanted to buy this site. You offer reed $10 mil. Reedd says go **** yourself. # months later, reed is bankrupt and has to sell the site. You gonna offer him $10 mil?

HELL ****ING NO!!!!!

pac is not looking to buy a site. ur making this look at pac is the challenger again. NONE of these 2 are the challenger. if a deal is half way done but only 1 thing is in the way then that 1 thing should only be the issue. when u go and make another request after another it just shows u are avoiding for a reason. this is not a fight where pac has to take or his legacy will have a question mark after it. BOTH of these guys need to fight eachother.

[AFighter4U]

I really don't think anyone from Pacquaio's camp has a leg to stand on in terms of demanding drug tests.

Considering they refused to agree to better testing for multiple years.

better testing? that's doubtful. victor conte, the guy who reinvented drug cheating considered OST EASY TO BEAT.