SMH @ Freddie. Roach "How about we drug test Floyd every month"

[The Big Dunn]

Ok, so since a 50/50 split with non cutoff OSDT > 50/50 split with a 14day cuttoff. Therefore since Floyd turned down the 50/50 split, Pac has the right to take the testing off the table since it was the best deal thus far and Floyd turned it down. By your standards, Pac should take the deal off the table then.

Its not by my standards dude. Pac did just that. He went from "i'll take less than 50/50" to "i want 50/50". If thats his stance fine by me. He's a grown man who makes his own decisions. If it doesn't work out too ****ing bad.

IMO, Floyd has the more lucrative options. Cotto, Canelo, Martinez , Khan. Manny has JMM, but he is gonna have to come off more money than last time.

Manny made a bad business decision. Can't blame floyd for it.

[BoxingGenius27]

think i read an article that testing for a training camp is about $80000

If that price only covers 6 weeks of training camp, imagine how much it will cost for an entire year?

but if its to clean up the sport why not?? the main reason for floyd wanting OST is to clean up the sport right??? or is it just floyd's test??

Let's be straight-forward and honest.

Mayweather started the OSDT request because he suspected Manny was cheating. Everyone knows that Mayweather's sole purpose in requesting these new tests was designated at Manny because he felt Manny was beating NSAC's way of testing like everyone else.

So even if I say it's Floyd's test or Floyd's test to clean up the sport, I still don't see how it even matters. It's a test that Floyd is subjecting himself to as well as his opponent.

Of course some will say:

a. Floyd has no right to pick on Manny.
b. Floyd's not the commission and has no right to create his own tests.
c. Floyd's not taking year round tests, so it's not even the real OSDT.
ect

All I see are reasons that were made up over time (2 and a half years to be exact) that are deterring away from Manny taking the test.

Lastly, I hear a lot of Pac fans say "Manny already agreed to the test". I thought Manny only went by the commission. Why so many inconsistentcies when it comes to a simple test?

[sapaw]

If you offer 50/50 then you are a terrible businessman. I don't believe you would because your lawyers and promoter would advise otherwise.
all believe that 50/50 is fair 2-3 years ago and until now... so thats terrible businessman? wow! you must be the richest guy in the world! lol!

You keep referencing later discussions. As I said before, there shouldn't have been a need for further negotiations because the best offer was the 1st one. OW, here go the great businessman and a boxing fan. First negotiation failed on the best fight of the decade or even the century, there SHOLUD no negotiation after that coz the first one failed! bravo!

Look man, manny just made a bad decision. Thats not floyd's fault. Thats like blaming manny for floyd beating his baby's mom.

I answered you point by point.... then, I only asked you one simple question? lol!

[VERSION1 (V1)]

All I know is Floyd could be on somethig of of the training camp.

you can say that about every fighter

[Deevel916]

when floyd was #1 p4p, he was ODH's challenger.There can only be one #1. While I agree manny is the strongest #2 since Holyfield, he is still #2. Bottom line dude, he made IMO a bad business deal when he refused to fight because of OST. He made himself look guilty when he wasn't and he simply didn't realize this was a rare occasion when the best offer was the first one.

Manny is essentially asking for the same deal he turned down in Dec 2009. He should've taken it then.

Its almost as if you're ok with this fight not going down as long as the blame for it can be shifted to Pac. Never mind what happened 3yrs ago. We're talking about now! I dont know about you but I desperately want to see this fight. Pac has made compromises towards that while Floyd has made it more and more difficult. Why?

[The Big Dunn]

This is what baffles me.

All along Floyd was ok with a 50/50 split. The purse split was never an issue up until now. Pac mentioned to a reporter that he would take less to make the fight if that's what's going to get Floyd in the ring. All of a sudden Floyd wants to hold Pac to that and refuse to fight him for a 50/50 split. If something that Pac said to some obscure reporter is going to make Floyd back out of the purse split deal that they had already settled on, I have to question how bad Floyd wanted this fight in the first place. Remember folks, when Floyd was on his twitter crusade, all he said was that Pac had to take the test. That's all! Once Pac agreed, Floyd thru up another roadblock! This is pure facts that can not be refuted!

its not fact dude because it isn't a roadblock. WHy can't you just admit manny made a mistake. He should've taken the best deal when it was available.

[AFighter4U]

If that price only covers 6 weeks of training camp, imagine how much it will cost for an entire year?



Let's be straight-forward and honest.

Mayweather started the OSDT request because he suspected Manny was cheating. Everyone knows that Mayweather's sole purpose in requesting these new tests was designated at Manny because he felt Manny was beating NSAC's way of testing like everyone else.

So even if I say it's Floyd's test or Floyd's test to clean up the sport, I still don't see how it even matters. It's a test that Floyd is subjecting himself to as well as his opponent.

Of course some will say:

a. Floyd has no right to pick on Manny.
b. Floyd's not the commission and has no right to create his own tests.
c. Floyd's not taking year round tests, so it's not even the real OSDT.
ect

All I see are reasons that were made up over time (2 and a half years to be exact) that are deterring away from Manny taking the test.

Lastly, I hear a lot of Pac fans say "Manny already agreed to the test". I thought Manny only went by the commission. Why so many inconsistentcies when it comes to a simple test?

all this talk about testing is already moot.

BOTH camps indirectly indicated that testing is NO LONGER AN ISSUE.

why are so many people STILL beating this dead horse?

the one thing currently preventing the fight is the fight purse/split and that nobody can agree on who gets how much. period.

[shogunn]

Whys there thread still going? the fight isnt happening because floyd is asking for 100% of the revenue.

I cant believe the idiots who still want Manny to take the test still use it as an excuse to lay blame on Manny for the fight not happening. That isnt, and almost never was the reason. Everyone in the world now knows floyd simply doesnt want it. Floyd asking for 100% is the equivalent of asking Manny to fight with 1 arm tied behind his back and questioning why he wont come to terms with that request.

[COACH WEBB]

This is what baffles me.

All along Floyd was ok with a 50/50 split. The purse split was never an issue up until now. Pac mentioned to a reporter that he would take less to make the fight if that's what's going to get Floyd in the ring. All of a sudden Floyd wants to hold Pac to that and refuse to fight him for a 50/50 split. If something that Pac said to some obscure reporter is going to make Floyd back out of the purse split deal that they had already settled on, I have to question how bad Floyd wanted this fight in the first place. Remember folks, when Floyd was on his twitter crusade, all he said was that Pac had to take the test. That's all! Once Pac agreed, Floyd thru up another roadblock! This is pure facts that can not be refuted!

What was your reaction to this? Did you make any threads on the topic or support Manny when he said this? Just curious.

[Deevel916]

its not fact dude because it isn't a roadblock. WHy can't you just admit manny made a mistake. He should've taken the best deal when it was available.

It IS a roadblock! For the past 2yrs the only thing ACCORDING TO FLOYD that was preventing this fight from happening was TESTING! He has went on the record numerous times to say so. There's even video of him saying that money isnt an issue and that has all been worked out. All he wants is to ensure that both fighters are on an even playing field. Now Pac, Arum, and even Ellerbe acknowledge that testing is a non issue and Pac will submit to whatever testing Floyd asks for. All of a sudden, now Floyd doesnt want to split the ppv revenue with someone who has brought in more revenue that him? Why is this all of a sudden an issue? U telling me this isnt a roadblock? GTFO!