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  • #31
    I agree with the TS. you can tell Mikey has been trained well. Very patience and great defense. He might not be all flashy and all that but he's got great skills nonetheless. It takes someone who knows boxing and has been in the ring a fews time before to appreciate his style

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    • #32
      Originally posted by 4CornersKid View Post
      Garcia handles everyone at FW probably, but Salido and Caballero would be tests. Salido would definitely push Mikey to open up more and force him to throw more often, but Salido is far too off balance when he throws most of the time, and would probably get floored by a counter from Mikey. Caballero, though not as good as he use to be, is still a good fighter. He has skills but I don't see him beating Mikey at this stage. Garcia is just fresher.

      Garcia has a good jab, good power, a pretty good defense it looks like, but sometimes he almost seems too basic. Don't get me wrong, I think he'll be a good fighter, and win a couple titles in a couple weight classes, but I don't think he'll beat the top guys around where he is. I don't see him beating Donaire, Gamboa, Broner, or Rigondeaux. He'll lose to someone with speed and superior skill.
      I for one don't think MIkey is boring. He takes his time, feels you out, knows what he can do, and he opens up on you big eventually. He seems like he can win a round off jabbing alone and boxing you, as well as open up on you. That's a tough formula to beat. The only thing that bothers me about Mikey a bit is that people say Canelo at 21 or Broner at 22 are being protected, but Mikey is 24 and hasn't beaten anyone of note. I agree that Canelo is being protected from a Kirkland no doubt, or any of the Top SWW aside from himself. Broner isn't though. Broner at 21 went in there with Ponce De Leon and was pushed to the brink by a tough fighter. He also fought Litzau, who had just beaten Caballero, and has fought Eloy Perez, a Top 10 SFW and his mandatory opponent. Broner isn't "protected", Canelo is though. But I hope wee Mikey Garcia in there with a good opponent next. Someone like Rafael Marquez, Jhonny Gonzalez, Celestino Caballero, or Orlando Salido even.
      Define the bold. All those guys may be faster, but what superiror skill are you reffering to?? Mikey is more text book than all of them, IMO.

      Besides you don't see Mikey going around sporting a world title beating tomatoe cans or shot fighters like Canelo is doing.

      Those other guys might be a bit faster, but that does not mean they are more skilled, not at all.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1502 View Post
        I have read a few threads about how Garcia wasn't impressive and that Concepcion is a bum and he's nothing special etc...

        Well I couldn't disagree more. First things first, Garcia completely dominated Concepcion in a way I have never seen him dominated. He landed 3 significant punches that I counted throughout the entire fight, one was a hard shot.

        Garcia's defense was superb, his patience and counters were on point. I heard people talking about they would like to see him go more to the body but that makes no sense to me and I will tell you why.

        When you fight someone, you fight to your strengths and their weaknesses. Concepcion is asmaller guy, stocky and short and you know he wants to get inside. If the 1,2 is working, why change it? I mean, Garcia was landing the jab, right hand combo and mixed in the hook and it was working to perfection, why would he change it? If your opponent can't stop something, you keep doing it until he adjusts, Concepcion never adjusted.

        The problem is, Garcia's style is not fan friendly to the average fan. Hardcore fans like myself LOVE his style. He's 24 yrs old, has the patience of someone 10 years older and is incredibly intelligent in the ring. He's got good power and he's a thinking man's boxer.

        His style is going to be very difficult for anyone at 126lbs. I was very impressed with Garcia. He's well trained and I'm looking forward to seeing him in the future against the best at that weight class.
        Agree. People got HIGH off Tarver's comments when he said Garcia should go to the body a lot more. I thought he did great, made the fight very easy, with no damage, and getting the tko.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by reedickyaluss View Post
          Because he felt he needed to win the 12th round to win the fight, there was less than a minute to go and he wasn't doing anything to win him the round and it was there to be won.

          Sometimes you have to take risks to win.
          Yea but only Stewart thought he needed the 12th to win, I didn't and neither did most watching the fight.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by El C@cique@PR View Post
            He didnt broke nobody down, the ref stop the fight prematurely!!

            The fight got booed in every single round, so as soon as somebody got a bit hurt, the ref stop it.

            It was boring to watch, one thing is being patience, another is being boring. He was against a opponent who was there to be taken out!

            Fire fight? Concepcion dont even throw punches anymore! Mickey could and should had step it up and throw more punches!!

            Im not saying he is not good, cuz he is!! But he was boring as ****!
            thats what i don't get.............garcia didn't break Concepcion down. all of these guys in here are chatting horse ****. garcia caught him with a shot that hurt him for the first time & then the ref stopped it premature.........Concepcion is a c class fighter & was ko'd in the 2nd against juama. i don't care if junma got into a fire fight.......he ko'd him within 2 rounds. garcia was fighting a BEATIN spirited c class fighter who just came from a lost 2 fights ago.

            it's a complete JOKE.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Bushbaby View Post
              Define the bold. All those guys may be faster, but what superiror skill are you reffering to?? Mikey is more text book than all of them, IMO.

              Besides you don't see Mikey going around sporting a world title beating tomatoe cans or shot fighters like Canelo is doing.

              Those other guys might be a bit faster, but that does not mean they are more skilled, not at all.
              people on here like to confuse handspeed with skill
              fast feet with footwork
              and head movement with defense

              happens all the time

              Garcia might just be the most technically gifted fighter at 126 right now

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              • #37
                Originally posted by savorduhflavor View Post
                Forgot you were there live. I can see it being boring live. I really didn't find it to be boring, it looked like a really talented kid just applying his craft.

                It's crazy how some fights suck live but are better on TV. I was at Cotto- Margs 2 and Wolak-Delvin 2 just seemed like nothing but I heard it was another ****er(not as good as first one obviously) on TV.
                it ****** just as much on tv...........

                even the mexican commentators went off on garcia. you are fighting a c class fighter who no longer has a fighting spirit. step it up..............

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Eaner0919 View Post
                  people on here like to confuse handspeed with skill
                  fast feet with footwork
                  and head movement with defense

                  happens all the time

                  Garcia might just be the most technically gifted fighter at 126 right now


                  he is very fundamentally sound

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by PACnPBFsuck View Post
                    The sad part is most of these dudes are crying about the same nonsense, he dominates but he's boring.

                    The guy fights at his own pace, he doesn't play to the crowd and he beats the people who is supposed to, the way he wants to.

                    "But he didn't go to the body", What for, Concepcion couldn't stop the 1-2 to the face, if its working why stop.
                    he fights at his on pace only because he's fighting bums & c class fighters coming off of ko's.

                    what happens when he's in the ring with someone who can match him for shot for shot & out volume him? this is what people mean by him not being "special" he will be in the ring with many guys who will match him. he has shown me no special quality's that will allow him to over come this.

                    he's only impressive to some because of the level of comp he enjoys fighting.

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                    • #40
                      I didn't see a problem with his performance.

                      I wasn't jumping out of my chair screaming I have to see him again either, but I didn't see a problem. He was ok.

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