Mikey Garcia DID impress......

[americanbot]

The sad part is most of these dudes are crying about the same nonsense, he dominates but he's boring.

The guy fights at his own pace, he doesn't play to the crowd and he beats the people who is supposed to, the way he wants to.

"But he didn't go to the body", What for, Concepcion couldn't stop the 1-2 to the face, if its working why stop.

he didn't go to the body........he barely threw anything to the body. it's not about "if i don't have to. why throw them" tarver knows his stuff......just because you don't have to throw a body shot doesn't mean you don't throw it. body shots creates openings and makes EVERY mans job a lot easier.

look at early cotto. in many of his matches he didn't have to throw body shots but he threw them because he knew it made his job a lot easier. thats a amateur mind set. "don't throw to the body because i don't have to"

[Hitman18]

he didn't go to the body........he barely threw anything to the body. it's not about "if i don't have to. why throw them" tarver knows his stuff......just because you don't have to throw a body shot doesn't mean you don't throw it. body shots creates openings and makes EVERY mans job a lot easier.

look at early cotto. in many of his matches he didn't have to throw body shots but he threw them because he knew it made his job a lot easier. thats a amateur mind set. "don't throw to the body because i don't have to"

I absolutely agree. As a young and up and coming prospect you HAVE to impress, so if you can win by KO is spectacular fashion, then damnit you do so. It was boring to watch 1-2, 1-2, 1-2 over and over and over. I wanted to see devastating body shots, I wanted to see a 4 or 5 punch combo. I didn't want to see a guy throw no more than 2 shots all night at another guy who I knew could easily be destroyed. Because of the way Garcia fought, there aren't any prospective matchups that I want to see him in. I want to see the exciting guys, and he was boring as hell.

[Bushbaby]

people on here like to confuse handspeed with skill
fast feet with footwork
and head movement with defense

happens all the time

Garcia might just be the most technically gifted fighter at 126 right now

Thanks bro, that's where he lost me too.

Technically Mikey is easily the most skilled fighter at at 126 or 122 for that matter.

[fceeviper]

I have read a few threads about how Garcia wasn't impressive and that Concepcion is a bum and he's nothing special etc...

Well I couldn't disagree more. First things first, Garcia completely dominated Concepcion in a way I have never seen him dominated. He landed 3 significant punches that I counted throughout the entire fight, one was a hard shot.

Garcia's defense was superb, his patience and counters were on point. I heard people talking about they would like to see him go more to the body but that makes no sense to me and I will tell you why.

When you fight someone, you fight to your strengths and their weaknesses. Concepcion is asmaller guy, stocky and short and you know he wants to get inside. If the 1,2 is working, why change it? I mean, Garcia was landing the jab, right hand combo and mixed in the hook and it was working to perfection, why would he change it? If your opponent can't stop something, you keep doing it until he adjusts, Concepcion never adjusted.

The problem is, Garcia's style is not fan friendly to the average fan. Hardcore fans like myself LOVE his style. He's 24 yrs old, has the patience of someone 10 years older and is incredibly intelligent in the ring. He's got good power and he's a thinking man's boxer.

His style is going to be very difficult for anyone at 126lbs. I was very impressed with Garcia. He's well trained and I'm looking forward to seeing him in the future against the best at that weight class.

QFT.


I call Garcia; Mini-JMM.

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

thats what i don't get.............garcia didn't break Concepcion down. all of these guys in here are chatting horse ****. garcia caught him with a shot that hurt him for the first time & then the ref stopped it premature.........Concepcion is a c class fighter & was ko'd in the 2nd against juama. i don't care if junma got into a fire fight.......he ko'd him within 2 rounds. garcia was fighting a BEATIN spirited c class fighter who just came from a lost 2 fights ago.

it's a complete JOKE.

A professional boxer who is undefeated and knocked his opponent out is a complete joke?

he fights at his on pace only because he's fighting bums & c class fighters coming off of ko's.

what happens when he's in the ring with someone who can match him for shot for shot & out volume him? this is what people mean by him not being "special" he will be in the ring with many guys who will match him. he has shown me no special quality's that will allow him to over come this.

he's only impressive to some because of the level of comp he enjoys fighting.

He fights at the pace he dictates, that's what makes him so special. They can try and come in and throw more punches, it's easier than it sounds when your facing a counter puncher like Garcia.

he didn't go to the body........he barely threw anything to the body. it's not about "if i don't have to. why throw them" tarver knows his stuff......just because you don't have to throw a body shot doesn't mean you don't throw it. body shots creates openings and makes EVERY mans job a lot easier.

look at early cotto. in many of his matches he didn't have to throw body shots but he threw them because he knew it made his job a lot easier. thats a amateur mind set. "don't throw to the body because i don't have to"

I absolutely agree. As a young and up and coming prospect you HAVE to impress, so if you can win by KO is spectacular fashion, then damnit you do so. It was boring to watch 1-2, 1-2, 1-2 over and over and over. I wanted to see devastating body shots, I wanted to see a 4 or 5 punch combo. I didn't want to see a guy throw no more than 2 shots all night at another guy who I knew could easily be destroyed. Because of the way Garcia fought, there aren't any prospective matchups that I want to see him in. I want to see the exciting guys, and he was boring as hell.

You do what works, you don't go to the body because it's cliche'. He couldn't stop the 1-2, so you keep throwing it until your arm falls off if you have to. He kept distance and dictated the pace of the fight. Excellent job by Garcia.

[CubanGuyNYC]

I have read a few threads about how Garcia wasn't impressive and that Concepcion is a bum and he's nothing special etc...

Well I couldn't disagree more...

Great opening post, Cuauhtémoc. I think Mikey's excellent. There are very few guys at 126 that have a chance against him. Gamboa is one; Salido is another. Right now, I think Garcia loses to both.

I enjoy watching fighters that apply the science of boxing, as Mikey does. But such fighters can often appear robotic and unimaginative. That just doesn't sell. As Cus D'Amato once said, "Boxing is entertainment. So to be successful a fighter must not only win but win in an exciting manner." Interestingly enough, both Yuri and "Siri" are more exciting than Garcia.

[Spray_resistant]

I have read a few threads about how Garcia wasn't impressive and that Concepcion is a bum and he's nothing special etc...

Well I couldn't disagree more. First things first, Garcia completely dominated Concepcion in a way I have never seen him dominated. He landed 3 significant punches that I counted throughout the entire fight, one was a hard shot.

Garcia's defense was superb, his patience and counters were on point. I heard people talking about they would like to see him go more to the body but that makes no sense to me and I will tell you why.

When you fight someone, you fight to your strengths and their weaknesses. Concepcion is asmaller guy, stocky and short and you know he wants to get inside. If the 1,2 is working, why change it? I mean, Garcia was landing the jab, right hand combo and mixed in the hook and it was working to perfection, why would he change it? If your opponent can't stop something, you keep doing it until he adjusts, Concepcion never adjusted.

The problem is, Garcia's style is not fan friendly to the average fan. Hardcore fans like myself LOVE his style. He's 24 yrs old, has the patience of someone 10 years older and is incredibly intelligent in the ring. He's got good power and he's a thinking man's boxer.

His style is going to be very difficult for anyone at 126lbs. I was very impressed with Garcia. He's well trained and I'm looking forward to seeing him in the future against the best at that weight class.

Agree, it was a bit dull but that was because Garcia was having a walk in the park with Concepcion.

He should be in more entertaining fights when he takes on someone who can bring out more in him. I would like to see him vs De Leon

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

Great opening post, Cuauhtémoc. I think Mikey's excellent. There are very few guys at 126 that have a chance against him. Gamboa is one; Salido is another. Right now, I think Garcia loses to both.

I enjoy watching fighters that apply the science of boxing, as Mikey does. But such fighters can often appear robotic and unimaginative. That just doesn't sell. As Cus D'Amato once said, "Boxing is entertainment. So to be successful a fighter must not only win but win in an exciting manner." Interestingly enough, both Yuri and "Siri" are more exciting than Garcia.

I could see him losing to Gamboa but not to Salido. He loves guys that come forward on him and he just sits back and picks them apart. We will see.

Agree, it was a bit dull but that was because Garcia was having a walk in the park with Concepcion.

He should be in more entertaining fights when he takes on someone who can bring out more in him. I would like to see him vs De Leon

I agree but as the talent level goes up, we will see what this kid is made of.

[Carpe Diem]

[Oh you out son]

He's a good well rounded fighter, but we are yet to see how he will handle a top tier opponent. He has a record of 28-0 and has yet to fight anyone worth mentioning. I dont see him beating a guy like Broner or Gamboa.

As for the entertainment value he brings, if you're not a hard core boxing purists, he will not keep you at the edge of your seat. This is why I question whether there will be much of a demand for him from the networks and casual fanbase which is the fanbase that brings in the money to our sport.

^^ this exactly. of course Mikey is a good fighter. but he is so basic that he doesn't bring any excitement so Uncle Bob doesn't give a **** about him.

i also think he is overrated by a lot of the hardcore boxing fans. i think he will get beat up by someone athletic like Gamboa or Broner who have equal to better skills than him plus a lot more speed and athleticism.