Comments Thread For: Roy Jones: I'd Beat Mayweather, Pacquiao a Tough Style

[intoccabile]

It means that's a question that you obviously can't answer.



Are you really comparing P-Will getting clearly out boxed by Quintana to Roy-Griffin? Unlike P-Will, Roy wasn't getting clearly out box. Unlike P-Will, Roy had started to take control. Unlike Quintana, Griffin didn't outbox Roy.



He lacked the ability to adjust. Real question did you even see the fight? The fight was stopped in the 9 after get this Griffin getting dropped(taking a knee whatever) In the 7th round just 2 rounds before. Griffin got dropped as well. Roy actually adjusted in that fight.



You can believe whatever the hell you want to believe. You have the right to your opinion. And, it can be very valid. But, if someone else believe Roy can handle Floyd. They have that right as well. And, there opinion is very valid. Because, of what Roy did in his prime.

You're clearly not getting it. I could care less what a fighter does in a rematch ,the fact remains Griffin gave roy fits all throughout the first fight simply by feinting, moving his damn head, and throwing punches. Which was easy to score points on, since Roys primary defense is a rope a dope. I swear, everything he learned defensively was on the Ali/Foreman tape. It's literally all he ever did when put on the ropes. Earmuff, grab his opponents head if it's there, and take punches to the ribs and elbows.

Roy is largely overrated because of his ability to defeat opponents by being a better athlete. He's always looked drastically worse when his opponent could deal with it.

[SplitSecond]

I understand you are new to boxing because of the Pacdung train but RJJ NEVER had a great jab!!

for the tools that only started watching boxing yesterday, watch jones vs pazienza, roy has a great jab, he can triple and quadruple it up all while still maintaining power

[intoccabile]

he displayed a good jab against ruiz as well. it's not ATG, but to say he didn't have a jab is something else...

Explain to me how a jab that never lands is labled a great or good jab? Roy just flicked his arm out there, nothing more. It was a way to keep his man guessing.. he never committed to it nor did he ever make contact with it (ever is an exaggeration, but you get what I'm saying.

I feel like you guys need to watch more RJJ fights. Feel free to prove me wrong by the way, that's the point of us having this debate in the first place is it not? Embed some videos on here, prove your points.

[intoccabile]

This was a response I wrote not long ago. I knew someone would point out that fight.. now feel free to embed it and prove me wrong. Roy used his jab in that fight the SAME exact way Alexander used his jab in the Kotelnik fight. and here are the results

64 / 647 Jabs 10% landed

Amazing, isn't it? Frequency doens't mean good.

for the tools that only started watching boxing yesterday, watch jones vs pazienza, roy has a great jab, he can triple and quadruple it up all while still maintaining power

No, he didn't have a jab at all. He used his jab EXACTLy how Alexander uses his.

Alexander will throw 400 jabs a fight and land 20 of them, and that's a factual statistic, btw.

Roy hardly ever made significant contact with his jab if ever, he would shadow box with it, nothing more. His fight with pazienza was probably his best display of his jab against ANY opponent in his career, even the COMPLETELY over matched ones early on and that's only because it was used frequently to keep Pazienza guessing, but it wasn't actually a destructive weapon. It didn't bust him up, hell it hardly landed, and Paz slipped most of the ones that didn't fall short (and most of them fail short, since he shadow boxed with it primarily).

[sirron000]

for the tools that only started watching boxing yesterday, watch jones vs pazienza, roy has a great jab, he can triple and quadruple it up all while still maintaining power

Get off the computer right now!! You picked one fight to state RJJ had a great jab? One fight doesn't make a career, NEWBIE!!

[switchsouthpaw]

For "kids" who just started watching boxing last year, in his prime, Roy was a beast.

[Roman Moreno]

You're clearly not getting it. I could care less what a fighter does in a rematch ,the fact remains Griffin gave roy fits all throughout the first fight simply by feinting, moving his damn head, and throwing punches. Which was easy to score points on, since Roys primary defense is a rope a dope. I swear, everything he learned defensively was on the Ali/Foreman tape. It's literally all he ever did when put on the ropes. Earmuff, grab his opponents head if it's there, and take punches to the ribs and elbows.

Roy is largely overrated because of his ability to defeat opponents by being a better athlete. He's always looked drastically worse when his opponent could deal with it.

You clearly don't get it.

Since you're using ****** ass logic and reasoning. Let me give you something that it will equate to what you're saying.

Mayweather vs Burton(then)/Augustus(now).

Burton/Augustus unorthodox style gave Floyd hell. One of the 3 toughest fight Floyd had in his career, Floyd was getting hit, Floyd leaking, Floyd had to dig deep. Floyd had trouble.

Am I to believe that Roy unorthodox style, but being the 10x more athletic, 10x more skilled, 10x the fighter that Burton/Augustus is can't handle Floyd?

[The Big Dunn]

There u go now u posted what the article says.. And I only quoted u because u seem to bold the choices of words u like instead of bolding the other part that leads to the part u bolded.

Thats the same thing I said in the 1st post. SO no matter what I bold its still the same. Roy feels more confident in beating manny then he does floyd. roy feels floyd's style is easier for him than manny's because he fought toney and he thinks their styles are the same.

[TheBoxingBanger]

Haha, the former [undisputed] 4P4 king says ....

Pac is better than Mayweather.

Nice call Roy, thanks for some great fights.

[MrClutch85]

Mayweather is pretty different from Toney in fact. If that is Jones best argument to say he would beat Floyd P4P, he has to go back to the drawing board.

I agree Roy just based his opinion of the Toney fight because of the style comparison