Comments Thread For: Roy Jones: I'd Beat Mayweather, Pacquiao a Tough Style

[intoccabile]

pacquiao is a southpaw with speed and power, he's a natural problem for anybody. however, while mayweather and toney may have similar styles, their differences in ring IQ and the athleticism that they employ with that style should also be factored. floyd has slowed down over the years now, he's more stationary and defensive oriented then he once was so i can totally understand roy's speculation here. i still think a younger floyd would give RJ a run for his money though.

roy had an underrated jab.

No, he didn't have a jab at all. He used his jab EXACTLy how Alexander uses his.

Alexander will throw 400 jabs a fight and land 20 of them, and that's a factual statistic, btw.

Roy hardly ever made significant contact with his jab if ever, he would shadow box with it, nothing more. His fight with pazienza was probably his best display of his jab against ANY opponent in his career, even the COMPLETELY over matched ones early on and that's only because it was used frequently to keep Pazienza guessing, but it wasn't actually a destructive weapon. It didn't bust him up, hell it hardly landed, and Paz slipped most of the ones that didn't fall short (and most of them fail short, since he shadow boxed with it primarily).

[sirron000]

Roy Jones always had a great jab and constantly went to the body i'm not talking about a big shot here and there to the body but always went to the body to set up his shots . Roy had great defense too.

Mayweather cant deal with fighters who have fast hands, and who have a jab like Roy had and who had defense like Roy had. Mayweather has lead feet too he would just stand there and Roy would tee off on him. Roy's defense was so great counter puncher's wouldn't be able to touch him.

Roy was a cerebral fighter like marquez

James Toney wasn't weight drained

Roy wasn't hating on Mayweather in an interview

A fighter like Mayweather can't deal with speed and cant make adjustments has no defense and can fight only one style.

Mayweather just relies on his speed his fundamentals are horrible.

Roy always had great boxing fundamentals

I understand you are new to boxing because of the Pacdung train but RJJ NEVER had a great jab!!

[PACsmash]

You responded to my original post, which didn't quote anyone, so you were clearly upset with what I said so how you arrive at me being mad is nonsense.

I read the article and posted the direct quotes from Roy. Yet you say I'm using my own words.

"The young Roy Jones, Jr. would probably beat Floyd Mayweather, Jr., because basically Floyd Mayweather, Jr. and James Toney fight with the same style."
when you come back and start talking about Manny Pacquiao, ….. "You got to survive his power first, then you deal with him. That's still yet to be seen. Of course with my size I'll beat him (Pacquio).

There u go now u posted what the article says.. And I only quoted u because u seem to bold the choices of words u like instead of bolding the other part that leads to the part u bolded.

[intoccabile]

I understand you are new to boxing because of the Pacdung train but RJJ NEVER had a great jab!!

Thank you.

[Roman Moreno]

Second fight means what exactly?

It means that's a question that you obviously can't answer.

Am I supposed to act like Paul Williams never lost to Carlos Quintana too?

Are you really comparing P-Will getting clearly out boxed by Quintana to Roy-Griffin? Unlike P-Will, Roy wasn't getting clearly out box. Unlike P-Will, Roy had started to take control. Unlike Quintana, Griffin didn't outbox Roy.

Fact remains he had 10 rounds to do that in the first fight and he couldn't. He lacked the ability to adjust then and there, and he couldn't handle Griffins ability to counter..

He lacked the ability to adjust. Real question did you even see the fight? The fight was stopped in the 9 after get this Griffin getting dropped(taking a knee whatever) In the 7th round just 2 rounds before. Griffin got dropped as well. Roy actually adjusted in that fight.

and i'm supposed to believe he'd handle floyds if they were the same size?

You can believe whatever the hell you want to believe. You have the right to your opinion. And, it can be very valid. But, if someone else believe Roy can handle Floyd. They have that right as well. And, there opinion is very valid. Because, of what Roy did in his prime.

[The Big Dunn]

You just exposed yourself completely!
If you can't see how ****** your post is, then you are a hopeless case!

I don't expect that you can read or comprehend english above a 3rd grade level.

[pac2]

That guy you quoted (named Pac of course, and a not my man 2Pac) is an example of the type of morons on here. I'm done with this forum, it is either race wars, nuthugging, or clueless guys like that one. Mayweather has the best fundamentals in the last 25 years. Roy Jones is not even in his league.


when anyone says that roy jones haas great fundamentals but floyd doesn't, they should be taken to the wood shed and left there. Kill yourself and stop watching boxing....please

Both of yall mothereffer's shut up I was being sarcastic the whole post is sarcasm read it again

Roy Jones always had a great jab and constantly went to the body i'm not talking about a big shot here and there to the body but always went to the body to set up his shots . Roy had great defense too.

Mayweather cant deal with fighters who have fast hands, and who have a jab like Roy had and who had defense like Roy had. Mayweather has lead feet too he would just stand there and Roy would tee off on him. Roy's defense was so great counter puncher's wouldn't be able to touch him.

Roy was a cerebral fighter like marquez

James Toney wasn't weight drained

Roy wasn't hating on Mayweather in an interview

A fighter like Mayweather can't deal with speed and cant make adjustments has no defense and can fight only one style.

Mayweather just relies on his speed his fundamentals are horrible.

Roy always had great boxing fundamentals

I forgot more about boxing then yall mothereffer's will ever know Money May pound for pound the most complete fighter ever.

[Roman Moreno]

I understand you are new to boxing because of the Pacdung train but RJJ NEVER had a great jab!!

Thank you.

The question is are you guys new to boxing?

Roy did have a great jab. Now you want to say that he didn't use it often than that is fine. You can say that. But, Roy had a great jab. In his prime he was so good that he never truly had to use it. But, if you want to see his jab showcased look at the John Ruiz fight. He used it beautifully in that fight.

[John Barron]

No, he didn't have a jab at all. He used his jab EXACTLy how Alexander uses his.

Alexander will throw 400 jabs a fight and land 20 of them, and that's a factual statistic, btw.

Roy hardly ever made significant contact with his jab if ever, he would shadow box with it, nothing more. His fight with pazienza was probably his best display of his jab against ANY opponent in his career, even the COMPLETELY over matched ones early on and that's only because it was used frequently to keep Pazienza guessing, but it wasn't actually a destructive weapon. It didn't bust him up, hell it hardly landed, and Paz slipped most of the ones that didn't fall short (and most of them fail short, since he shadow boxed with it primarily).

he displayed a good jab against ruiz as well. it's not ATG, but to say he didn't have a jab is something else...

[Roman Moreno]

No

Like I said Roy is a career what? Floyd/Pac are career what. By time he was 25 he was super middleweight. Its really no comparison, at ALL

Yes.

Again he clearly said young Roy. And, a young Roy fought at 154. Where is Floyd next fight? And, Floyd has fought in that weight-class before. Pac has won a title at that weight-class.

Still confuse how he is a clown for saying what he feels.