rjj doesn't know **** about boxin!
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Originally posted by intoccabile View PostThe jab has many purposes, and as I started in another post Roys jab was good for what HE intended it to be. But everyone was acting like his jab was a good weapon when it wasnt, it was a good tool, sure, but it wasn't a deadly weapon by any means. I have already stated it served it's purpose, but MY definition of a good jab isn't what Roys was.
A good jab to me is one that is feared or demands respect. One that if it lands, will have an impact. Holmes comes to mind.. as does Quartey. Those are good jabs. Roys was just loose change, many fights flick their jab out there for the same purpose with the same results.
Now, Derrick Gainer has the same style as Roy and his jab was decent. Watching footage of them you'll see the difference I'm talking about. They both fight exactly alike.. I dunno if they have the same trainer or Gainer just loved Roy enough to emulate him, but he had a snappy jab that put heads back, and IMO that's what I look for in a good jab.
And i dont think Floyd is an easy fight for any fighter p4p. But i do see Roy winning.
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Roy is delusional about himself and has been for a while, though I like his live fight commentating. Floyd and Toney are similar in one aspect and thats with their backs against the ropes they use a shoulder roll. Floyd's quicker with excellent timing. Roy has got to come up with a better gameplan than that.
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Originally posted by hugh grant View PostRJJ is better than Floyd no doubt. He was doing what Floyd was doing but against better fighters.
RJJ athletism would be too much for FLoyd. All that shoulder roll stuff wouldnt work on RJJ hed get caught eventually and koed out.
RJJ knows Pac is better than FLoyd.
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Originally posted by studentofthegam View PostRoy is delusional about himself and has been for a while, though I like his live fight commentating. Floyd and Toney are similar in one aspect and thats with their backs against the ropes they use a shoulder roll. Floyd's quicker with excellent timing. Roy has got to come up with a better gameplan than that.
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Originally posted by Atreyu Khalil View PostWell yes I was aware of that instance but that was a slip I guess...but when I said knock down I meant a legitimate knockdown.
RJJ was caught clean by Del Valle.
Lou was his former sparring partner .. something RJJ said he would never fight.
Lou pushed RJJ into the ropes and when RJJ recoiled, Del Valle caught him flush and RJJ lost control of his legs and tried to step away and fell.
I remember it well.
Lou was a big deal here after that. We all knew him before, but after dropping the second coming of Sugar, he was a celebrity.
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Originally posted by SWEETSCIENCE100 View PostI believe Mayweather would have stop Roy in an even weight fight. Roy was fast as hell but technically flawed, with a weak defense. An overweight James toney gave Roy Problems. I believe had Toney had Mayweathers work ethic in the gym, Roy would have been koed in that fight against Toney. Toney had bad eating,drinking, and smoking habits and did not traithe n with passion needed to be great, Roy did. If you watch the fight you can see Toney making Roy miss some big shots over and over. Mayweather would have returned fire and made Roy pay in full for every Mistake, Anybody who disagrees is a fool.
Tiney was P4P#1 when Jones beat him. Why make that excuse? Did you see the fight?
Yes, Jones was technically flawed. That's why he never would have had the longevity of BHOP, but he made up for it by having inhuman speed and the reflexes of a cobra.
RJJ was unbelievable in his prime. He beat EVERYONE put in front of him and kept on winning until he left the HW division.
Your criticism is unwarranted and based on conjecture.
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