Floyd Mayweather jr = Floyd Mayweather snr with better Management?

[D4thincarnation]

Are both Mayweathers are similarly gifted but one's career was managed better by picking the right fights at the right time?

Mayweather snr fought in a era where there were 3 other elite fighters around his weight. Duran, Leonard and Hearns. Mayweather only fought SRL early in his career. Mayweather fought well, showing his great defense and speed, but Leonard stops him in 10.










Leonard has said that Mayweather snr was the greatest defensive fighter he has fought, high praise since he also fought Benitez.

Floyd snr was also beating by another top welter of the 80s, one trained by Roach, Marlon Starling.

Floyd snr took this fight early in his career, if he had the managemnt that Floyd jnr had it is likely this fight does not happen.

Floyd jnr does have a better work ethic but there skill set and physical attributes are on a similar level.

But where has Floyd snr took on the elite fighters of his era Floyd jnr has done everything he can do to avoid the elite fighter on his.

If Floyd jnr and snr swapped places, I could see that Floyd jr getting beat by the likes of Leonard and Starling and his career never really taking off. And Floyd snr's career flourishing with the right management, choosing the right fights at the right time as Floyd has done he would have remained unbeaten and be a big star like his son.

The way to beat Floyd snr, was to go to the body and take the fight to him pressure him, just as Floyd jnr is susceptible to. Leonard was also a big puncher and had great hand speed, just as Pacquiao has got.


Hard to see how Floyd jnr would have coped in the early 80s, he can just about get away with avoiding the Pacquiao fight, don't think the fans would have accepted Floyd avoiding fights with Leonard, Hearns and Duran.

[RL_GMA]

Floyd comes from the same schooling, but he's an overall better fighter / athlete than his Dad ever was. IMO Floyd would lose to guys like Leonard, but I don't think as bad as his Dad did.

Whether or not Floyd would've taken those fights? In that era he would've had no choice if he wanted to be where he's currently at today. Different time, different era.

[pdei47]

Where do these Floyd opponent historians get this BS? People try to compare this era with that era & none of it make sense. It’s like putting dinosaurs up against a pit bull. Floyd has fought guys that was suppose to knock him out, guys that were supposed to be faster, each time his training & approach to his craft has made these fights look easy. It’s easy to say you can do this & that until you are in the ring that’s where most fighters end up understanding that boxing a boxer is not like a bar room brawl.

[Phil Ivey]

Lol you're trying very hard aren't you... Jnr is more talented with a greater work ethic, if you can't see that he's a better athlete then I don't know what to tell you. And no Pacquiao isn't a good pressure fighter, and Pacquiao doesn't have power like Leonard you kidding?

SNR would still be an ordinary fighter, how does less of an athlete than Jr and worse work ethic = same level of success as Jr?

Floyd Jr isn't getting stopped by guys like Tyrone Phelps, you saying Tyrone Phelps > everyone on Jr's resume? LOL... This is the only logical way of thinking if you think Sr would've remained unbeaten.

[Larry the boss]

Jr is a much better fighter than Sr

[DLT]

Mayweather didnt have big fights when he was younger? He beat the Legend Hernandez when he was just 21 and had a mega fight with Chico when he was just 23. Jr is clearly the better fighter and cant be debated.

As I said before though, stop comparing people in different weight classes. Senior & Leonard were huge WW's in there 1st division. Floyd was in his 4th division at WW, was never even a real WW until recently, and even then he only comes into the ring at 150 pounds.

Saying he couldnt beat Leonard is ****** when you think about that. Dont compare him head to head with SRL unless you are doing it on a P4P basis and the fact is that a SFW Floyd more than holds his own with a WW SRL & Hearns. A WW Floyd is much better than a SRL or Hearns that moved up in weight. Thats how you compare them.

At the times of the SRL-Sr. fights, they were coming into the ring at over 160 pounds while at the same age Mayweather was coming in at 138 pounds. Its dumb to talk about. Dont say he wouldnt compete when they werent close to the same weight naturally.

[Brother Jay]

Are both Mayweathers are similarly gifted but one's career was managed better by picking the right fights at the right time?

Mayweather snr fought in a era where there were 3 other elite fighters around his weight. Duran, Leonard and Hearns. Mayweather only fought SRL early in his career. Mayweather fought well, showing his great defense and speed, but Leonard stops him in 10.










Leonard has said that Mayweather snr was the greatest defensive fighter he has fought, high praise since he also fought Benitez.

Floyd snr was also beating by another top welter of the 80s, one trained by Roach, Marlon Starling.

Floyd snr took this fight early in his career, if he had the managemnt that Floyd jnr had it is likely this fight does not happen.

Floyd jnr does have a better work ethic but there skill set and physical attributes are on a similar level.

But where has Floyd snr took on the elite fighters of his era Floyd jnr has done everything he can do to avoid the elite fighter on his.

If Floyd jnr and snr swapped places, I could see that Floyd jr getting beat by the likes of Leonard and Starling and his career never really taking off. And Floyd snr's career flourishing with the right management, choosing the right fights at the right time as Floyd has done he would have remained unbeaten and be a big star like his son.

The way to beat Floyd snr, was to go to the body and take the fight to him pressure him, just as Floyd jnr is susceptible to. Leonard was also a big puncher and had great hand speed, just as Pacquiao has got.


Hard to see how Floyd jnr would have coped in the early 80s, he can just about get away with avoiding the Pacquiao fight, don't think the fans would have accepted Floyd avoiding fights with Leonard, Hearns and Duran.

Elite = someone who is exceptional, has the ability to reign and consistently defeats the #1, 2 and 3 fighters in the division(s) they compete in. They are in a word ... extraordinary. They are the epitome of what a champion is and how he should conduct his career.

Very seldom will you ever see two elite fighters face each other. Not because they are "ducking" each other, but because its rare that elite fighters exist in the same era and close enough in weight to make a match possible.

Real boxing fans understand this. New-to-boxing type fans continue to treat reputation as if its worth anything more than a way to sell PPVs and tickets. Its a childish notion, and that's exactly why its easy to understand why *******s cling to that notion. They don't see this because they don't really know what elite even means.

Not even worth writing another response. A quote will suffice.

[MJ223]

Mayweather didnt have big fights when he was younger? He beat the Legend Hernandez when he was just 21 and had a mega fight with Chico when he was just 23. Jr is clearly the better fighter and cant be debated.

As I said before though, stop comparing people in different weight classes. Senior & Leonard were huge WW's in there 1st division. Floyd was in his 4th division at WW, was never even a real WW until recently, and even then he only comes into the ring at 150 pounds.

Saying he couldnt beat Leonard is ****** when you think about that. Dont compare him head to head with SRL unless you are doing it on a P4P basis and the fact is that a SFW Floyd more than holds his own with a WW SRL & Hearns. A WW Floyd is much better than a SRL or Hearns that moved up in weight. Thats how you compare them.

At the times of the SRL-Sr. fights, they were coming into the ring at over 160 pounds while at the same age Mayweather was coming in at 138 pounds. Its dumb to talk about. Dont say he wouldnt compete when they werent close to the same weight naturally.

False...... Same day weigh ins

[Russian Crushin]

Mayweather didnt have big fights when he was younger? He beat the Legend Hernandez when he was just 21 and had a mega fight with Chico when he was just 23. Jr is clearly the better fighter and cant be debated.

As I said before though, stop comparing people in different weight classes. Senior & Leonard were huge WW's in there 1st division. Floyd was in his 4th division at WW, was never even a real WW until recently, and even then he only comes into the ring at 150 pounds.

Saying he couldnt beat Leonard is ****** when you think about that. Dont compare him head to head with SRL unless you are doing it on a P4P basis and the fact is that a SFW Floyd more than holds his own with a WW SRL & Hearns. A WW Floyd is much better than a SRL or Hearns that moved up in weight. Thats how you compare them.

At the times of the SRL-Sr. fights, they were coming into the ring at over 160 pounds while at the same age Mayweather was coming in at 138 pounds. Its dumb to talk about. Dont say he wouldnt compete when they werent close to the same weight naturally.

Man wtf are you ranting about? P4P basis?

The man is comparing Floyd snr fight Leonard, a fight which happened at 147. Leonard was a WW for most of his career. Also the fight took place in 1978 which still had same days weigh ins, so explain to me how they weighed 160 on fight night

Its like saying you cant compare Holyfield to the great HWs because its not Holyfields "natural" weight.

[IronDanHamza]

Erm, No.