Floyd Mayweather jr = Floyd Mayweather snr with better Management?

[Blubba]

Man wtf are you ranting about? P4P basis?

The man is comparing Floyd snr fight Leonard, a fight which happened at 147. Leonard was a WW for most of his career. Also the fight took place in 1978 which still had same days weigh ins, so explain to me how they weighed 160 on fight night

Its like saying you cant compare Holyfield to the great HWs because its not Holyfields "natural" weight.

^^^^exactly,

weighing at 160? lol hahahah! errr no!

[Paclan]

JR is Roger and SR put together

Plus his conditioning is leagues above both of theirs. That's one of Floyd's biggest strengths. He fights every round like it's the first round and that just equals to nonstop pressure.

[D4thincarnation]

Floyd comes from the same schooling, but he's an overall better fighter / athlete than his Dad ever was. IMO Floyd would lose to guys like Leonard, but I don't think as bad as his Dad did.

Whether or not Floyd would've taken those fights? In that era he would've had no choice if he wanted to be where he's currently at today. Different time, different era.

I would agree that jnr has the better work ethic, making him the better athlete.
But they fight the same style, because Floyd snr taught his son to box. Jnr may be a bit more conservative and less willing to take risk, and also has more power.

If Floyd jnr would have had a loss like that to Leonard early in his career his career could have gone of the rails too.

And with the like of Duran, Leonard and Hearns around at the same time, Floyd and his negative style would not have garnered much interest.

[D4thincarnation]

Where do these Floyd opponent historians get this BS? People try to compare this era with that era & none of it make sense. It’s like putting dinosaurs up against a pit bull. Floyd has fought guys that was suppose to knock him out, guys that were supposed to be faster, each time his training & approach to his craft has made these fights look easy. It’s easy to say you can do this & that until you are in the ring that’s where most fighters end up understanding that boxing a boxer is not like a bar room brawl.

Like who?

I think the only fight Floyd was not favourite for was the fight against Chico.

Floyd snr also had the same craft but when put up against an elite fighter it came unstuck

[D4thincarnation]

Jr is a much better fighter than Sr

Yes but he uses the same skills, Jnr is the better athlete, but that could just be down to the indiscipline of snr who didn't train as hard.

Leonard said Mayweather snr had the best defence out of anyone he had fought, this was not a throw away line.

[DARKSEID]

Different fighters, different eras

JR learned the fundamentals from SR and overlapped it with what he learned from Roger.

How can they have the same style when it was roger who trained him?

[D4thincarnation]

Different fighters, different eras

JR learned the fundamentals from SR and overlapped it with what he learned from Roger.

How can they have the same style when it was roger who trained him?

Who do you think trained Roger?

[PrettyBoy22]

Why do people criticise Floyd for not facing opponents on a similar calibre to Sugar Ray Leonard or Hearns etc? Its not Floyds fault nobody is on his level! And if anyone thinks Pacquiao is on a similar level to SRL they are truely delusional...and anyone who thinks Mayweather is scared of Pacquiao, you are also failing to see the truth.

[DLT]

False...... Same day weigh ins

Im talkin about vs Floyd Jr.

Man wtf are you ranting about? P4P basis?

The man is comparing Floyd snr fight Leonard, a fight which happened at 147. Leonard was a WW for most of his career. Also the fight took place in 1978 which still had same days weigh ins, so explain to me how they weighed 160 on fight night

Its like saying you cant compare Holyfield to the great HWs because its not Holyfields "natural" weight.

What is your dumbass ranting about? At the end he started comparing Jr. to fighting SRL and the other big names of that era.

You can compare Jr. to any WW but its not truly a fair comparison. I use to say it all the time. Iditos like Manny Steward in every Floyd fight says how he wouldnt stack up to SRL & Hearns. You can clearly tell he is speaking of head to head in a fight. Alot of guys on here post threads like that. It doesnt make sense. If you want to compare them then do it in a P4P sense. SRL at WW is equal to Floyd at SFW.

The TS was also talking about age. He was talking about fighting guys at a young age and I was saying at that age Jr. was a SFW. I always use to say that if you wanna compare Floyd at WW then atleast wait a few years until he grows into the weight. That time has now come but he's still only 150 in the ring where those guys would easily be over 160 pounds even if you are dumb enough not to believe that.

Senior himself talks non stop about how small Junior is. You can tell that he thinks that Junior is clearly a better fighter then himself but that he may have won because he is naturally a much bigger guy, e****ally if you are comparing them age for age like the TS was

^^^^exactly,

weighing at 160? lol hahahah! errr no!

Im talking about vs Floyd Jr.

[DARKSEID]

Who do you think trained Roger?

Roger is a better fighter than SR and actually won titles.

Sr never had a title. You cant compare him to floyd. Which would have a title at least at one point in his career, in any era.

It's not like SR was never given Opportunities- he just failed at them.