All the people that piss and moan about Wladimir Klitschko...

[nomadman]

Wlad's been KTFO before ...in the worse era EVER..

Ross Purrity couldn't beat Joe Louis' trainer...

Lamon Brewster was AWOL from rehab when he KO'd Wlad...

Corey Sanders was a better golfer than he was a fighter...

Say what you will about Joe's comp...i'm sure none of them were drug addicts..

HOW DO YOU MANAGE TO GET KO'D BY A GUY WITH A CRACK-PIPE IN HIS POCKET...???

The Klit Bothers are not great...hell...Chris Byrd WALKED VITALI DOWN and made his QUIT on his stool..!!..Imagine if that was the Brown Bomber instead of Chris Byrd.

"well he had a torn rotator"

Oh really...then he should have fought with one arm...Ali didn't let a broken jaw force him to QUIT....and he had a lot more in front of him that the DREADED Chris Byrd...

CHRIS BYRD......LOL.....

Apologies if I give this post the response it deserves.

[AlwaysOnTop]

Apologies if I give this post the response it deserves.

The truth is too strong for your fragile self-esteem..

ROSS PURITY...................................

The DREADED Chris Byrd....................................

I just can't see Chris Byrd walking Joe Louis down and making him QUIT between rounds...

[JAB5239]

You think they strategically chose those matchups huh?

I guess Wlad fighting Byrd a 2nd time had nothing to do with the fact that Byrd was the IBF Champion and Wlad the mandatory challenger.

So great job on that one. It's not cherry picking when the fight is mandated genius. You also conveniently ignore the fact that at the time of Byd-Wlad Vitali had been retired for 2 full years with no sign of coming back.

And in regard to Corrie Sanders, it's well known by everyone but you that Sanders rejected the idea of fighting Wlad again and relinquished the belt to take a bigger money fight against Vitali.

The fact that both opponents were beaten down so badly is why the other brother never went after a rematch as both guys were essentially done at the point where they lost to a Klitschko.

I know all about why the second Byrd fight happened, but that isn't the point. Vitaly simply never sought the rematch. And if its well know Sanders rejected the idea of fighting Wlad again than that must be news to him, genius.

Corrie Sanders doesn’t know why Wladimir Klitschko never sought a rematch
June 17th, 2010

By Jim Dower: Former WBO heavyweight champion Corrie Sanders (42-4, 31 KO’s) wishes that Wladimir Klitschko had sought to avenge his 2nd round knockout loss to him, and Sanders, now 44, doesn’t understand why Klitschko never tried to avenge his knockout loss to him. In an article at Sportbox.ru, Sanders says “Yes, it would be nice to fight him [Wladimir] again. I do not know why he never wanted a rematch.” Sanders latter on went up against Wladimir’s big brother Vitali Klitschko, who after a shaky start in which he was staggered and almost dropped, came back to batter Sanders to a pulp and stop him in the 8th round in April 2004. Sanders points out that Vitali’s size was too much, saying “But he [Vitali] is so big that it was difficult to beat him.”

Sanders thinks that Wladimir is vulnerable still, and doesn’t know if Wladimir would be still standing if he gets hit solid. However, Sanders thinks that Wladimir’s opponents have to be “bold and assertive” for them to beat him. He says that’s how Wladimir can make mistakes. Sanders “In our battle, Wladimir underestimated me, but afterwards he made adjustments.”

Sanders, a 6’4” southpaw, with lightning fast hands and huge power, was a very dangerous heavyweight in the 90s and the early 2000s. He never was able to make it past a certain level until late in his career when he shocked Wladimir by stopping him in the 2nd round. At the time, Sanders was 37-years-old, and Wladimir may have been thinking he was an older fighter and thus no longer dangerous.

You could see in the way that Wladimir fought him by going out and trying to slug with Sanders, that he didn’t really understand how much of a threat Sanders was until it was far too late. Wladimir ended up getting nailed with a number of big left hands from Sanders and knocked down twice near the end of the 1st round. In the 2nd, Sanders put Klitschko away after knocking him down for a third time.

It seemed like Sanders really had Klitschko’s number and even if there had been a rematch, many people believe Sanders would have easily knocked Wladimir out again. But to his credit, Wladimir soon after got a new trainer, Emanuel Steward, and after one more loss to Lamon Brewster, Wladimir has been unbeaten for the past six years, winning his last 12 fights. For his part, Sanders was beaten in his next fight after the Wladimir win, losing to Vitali Klitschko by knockout.

Sanders then beat three 2nd tier fighters before getting stopped in the 1st round two years ago by fellow South African Osborne Machimana. At 44, it’s hard to imagine Sanders being able to get into good enough shape to fight Wladimir.

[beez721]

Pacquiao moved out of the division less than a year after his first loss and the very next fight after his second because he outgrew those divisions being 17 and 20 at the time. Wlad didn't have that problem. I can give him a pass on the Puritty fight, though I think he should have tried getting him back in the ring, but there is no excuse for not rematching Sanders and instead letting his brother fight his battle for him.

I agree that lewis didnt duck anyone and fought the most dangerous fights for the fans sake but I dont think wlad ducked rematches with sanders or purrity. it takes two to tango and I doubt sanders or purrity wanted to risk losing in a rematch. just my opinion. wlad stated he wanted sanders in a rematch in the post fight interview

[JAB5239]

I agree that lewis didnt duck anyone and fought the most dangerous fights for the fans sake but I dont think wlad ducked rematches with sanders or purrity. it takes two to tango and I doubt sanders or purrity wanted to risk losing in a rematch. just my opinion. wlad stated he wanted sanders in a rematch in the post fight interview

He did state that, but he never pushed it. It was a bad styles match up for him and I think he knew that. Its just my opinion but I think great fighters want the chance to avenge defeats like that if they're available and he never went after it.

[polarcub]

Its really really hard to tell how good the Klitsbros are. Because of the ******s they fought and beat.

Using a nba example is like Andrew Bynum a center for the la lakers is BY FAR

THE 2ND BEST center in the league right now. He is dominating the western center position. Supposedly he got **** loads of talent, but its really hard knowing how good this guy is cuz the nba center position is like the HW division atm weak and pathetic.

Could Bynum have dominated ewing, mourning, robinson, wilt, etc who knows. but beating out bums in a weak era sure don't prove anything/

[nomadman]

He did state that, but he never pushed it. It was a bad styles match up for him and I think he knew that. Its just my opinion but I think great fighters want the chance to avenge defeats like that if they're available and he never went after it.

The lack of a Sanders rematch sits badly with me as well. I think Wlad would have beat Sanders, but he would have had to dig deep and gone to a place I don't think he likes to go to in order to do so. Sanders was a brutal early rounds puncher and he nearly had Vitali out of it despite being badly out of shape at the time. Wlad would have had to have eaten some earth shattering shots to win the fight, and probably have to have gotten up from another couple of knockdowns to do so. He did it against Peter, but Sanders hit so much harder and was so much more dangerous to an already hurt fighter. Could Wlad have kept himself together long enough to impose his superior boxing on the South African? It's a shame we never found out via a rematch.

Just as an aside, Sanders gets taken the piss out of way too much for my liking. Yes, he preferred golfing over boxing. Yes he had a pot belly. He could also knock almost any mother****er on the planet out if he landed correctly. A very brutal puncher.

[nomadman]

Its really really hard to tell how good the Klitsbros are. Because of the ******s they fought and beat.

Using a nba example is like Andrew Bynum a center for the la lakers is BY FAR

THE 2ND BEST center in the league right now. He is dominating the western center position. Supposedly he got **** loads of talent, but its really hard knowing how good this guy is cuz the nba center position is like the HW division atm weak and pathetic.

Could Bynum have dominated ewing, mourning, robinson, wilt, etc who knows. but beating out bums in a weak era sure don't prove anything/

What are your opinions of Joe Louis, Jack Dempsey and Rocky Marciano?

[Mike Tyson77]

And when Wlad knocks out Tony Thompson again, everyone will piss and moan again. WLAD HAS CLEANED OUT THE DIVISION, THERE IS NOBODY LEFT,HE HAS BEATEN EVERYONE!!! Wlad is already an all time great, but he's still got some left in the tank even at age 36 I believe he can fight for 3-5 more years.

[DiegoFuego]

You may get your wish very soon, if Vitali wins the election for mayor of Kiev.



They've NEVER done that.

Wlad has fought the best opponents he can find, mostly his mandatories and other titleholders. Vitali has fought the best available at a given time.

Neither have ever ducked or avoided anybody.

Do you not see the contradiction there?