All the people that piss and moan about Wladimir Klitschko...

[- Ram Raid -]

Comparing Wladimir to Joe Louis is an outright obscenity.

[nomadman]

Comparing Wladimir to Joe Louis is an outright obscenity.

What about comparing their eras?

[DontGlassMeBro]

wladimir would ktfo that flat footed duck joe louis

[nomadman]

wladimir would ktfo that flat footed duck joe louis

Now now, no need for the insults.

[Barn]

wladimir would ktfo that flat footed duck joe louis

Who did Joe Louis duck?

Also, there's me forgetting that Wladimir dances around the ring.

[DontGlassMeBro]

Who did Joe Louis duck?

Also, there's me forgetting that Wladimir dances around the ring.

he didn't duck i'm saying he is a flat footed duck. you know how a duck's feet are flat...etc...nevermind...

[Barn]

he didn't duck i'm saying he is a flat footed duck. you know how a duck's feet are flat...etc...nevermind...

hahahahahahahahaha. alright lol my bad.

[- Ram Raid -]

What about comparing their eras?

That's valid. A definite comparison can be made in terms of a dearth of talent. They're respective records can be compared in terms of title fights. I have no problem with comparing the stats.

The problem for me arises when a comparison of the stats (including psychical size) has taken the place of a comparison of actual craftsmanship. For me that is how a boxer should be judged first and foremost. Boxing ability.

In those terms, Wladimir can't compete. He seems like the kind of man who would be the first to acknowledge though.

[nomadman]

It would make more of a difference in this era due to the actual size of the brothers. They are not even "heavyweights" they are "super heavyweights." Joe Louis would come in around 200 pounds for his fights. Billy Conn was also a very good LHW, therefore only moving up 25 pounds. It's probably the same as Wladimir fighter former Cruisers if you go by how big the disparity is/was taking into account Louis/Wlads weight.

Heavyweight is heavyweight. Fighters should all be judged on the same criteria, and Louis fought plenty of fighters as physically large as Wlad and Vittels.

[nomadman]

That's valid. A definite comparison can be made in terms of a dearth of talent. They're respective records can be compared in terms of title fights. I have no problem with comparing the stats.

The problem for me arises when a comparison of the stats (including psychical size) has taken the place of a comparison of actual craftsmanship. For me that is how a boxer should be judged first and foremost. Boxing ability.

In those terms, Wladimir can't compete. He seems like the kind of man who would be the first to acknowledge though.

I have a hard time seeing Wlad getting KDed by Galento or Braddock or getting nearly KOed by a former middleweight. Louis was skilled and an admirable champion, but not so skilled that a direct comparison between him and Wlad should be seen as "oscene". He had his share of flaws too.