All the people that piss and moan about Wladimir Klitschko...

[StarshipTrooper]

Ya like Joe Louis getting KO'd by Schmeling and Marciano.

Both of whom had more talent in their respective left nuts than Corrie Sanders the Golf Pro has in his entire body :hahahaha9:

[Mike Tyson77]

Both of whom had more talent in their respective left nuts than Corrie Sanders the Golf Pro has in his entire body :hahahaha9:

Now youre back to pissing and moaning.

[Barn]

Ya like Joe Louis getting KO'd by Schmeling and Marciano.

Rocky was an ATG and Louis was coming back from retirement. You can't use that fight as an example.

Louis loss to Schmeling and that was his only loss in about 55 fights or something until he retired.

I'll also add Schmeling was a former UNDISPUTED champion.

[Atreyu Khalil]

You mean like he did on this occasion? >>>>>

In all fairness that was Wald in 2003, he was ko'ed by Brewster in 2004 and since then he has won 15 HW fights with 8 ko's and have beat everyone put in front of him. 13 of those fights are title fights.

He has bounced back to have a good reign and has beat the guys that have been available. He hasn't ducked anyone and just beats people up.

[StarshipTrooper]

In all fairness that was Wald in 2003, he was ko'ed by Brewster in 2004 and since then he has won 15 HW fights with 8 ko's and have beat everyone put in front of him. 13 of those fights are title fights.

He has bounced back to have a good reign and has beat the guys that have been available. He hasn't ducked anyone and just beats people up.

And the quality of his opposition has been getting steadily worse since.....

[Atreyu Khalil]

Rocky was an ATG and Louis was coming back from retirement. You can't use that fight as an example.

Louis loss to Schmeling and that was his only loss in about 55 fights or something until he retired.

I'll also add Schmeling was a former UNDISPUTED champion.

Oh, there they go. There they go, every time I start talkin 'bout boxing, a white man got to pull Rocky Marciano out they ass. That's their one, that's their one. Rocky Marciano! Rocky Marciano! Let me tell you something, once and for all--Rocky Marciano was good; but compared to Joe Louis, Rocky Marciano ain't ****!!

Joe Louis had come out of retirement to fight Rocky Marciano the minute he was 76 years old. Joe Louis was always lying about his age. He lied about his age all the time. One time Frank Sinatra came in here and sat in this chair. I said Frank 'you hang out with Joe Louis, just between me and you, how old is Joe Louis?' You know what Frank told me, he said "Hey, Joe Louis is 137 years old." A hundred and thirty-seven years old!

[Mike Tyson77]

And the quality of his opposition has been getting steadily worse since.....

More pissing and moaning. Joe Louis fought a whole slew of bums when he was champ.

[Barn]

Oh, there they go. There they go, every time I start talkin 'bout boxing, a white man got to pull Rocky Marciano out they ass. That's their one, that's their one. Rocky Marciano! Rocky Marciano! Let me tell you something, once and for all--Rocky Marciano was good; but compared to Joe Louis, Rocky Marciano ain't ****!!

Joe Louis had come out of retirement to fight Rocky Marciano the minute he was 76 years old. Joe Louis was always lying about his age. He lied about his age all the time. One time Frank Sinatra came in here and sat in this chair. I said Frank 'you hang out with Joe Louis, just between me and you, how old is Joe Louis?' You know what Frank told me, he said "Hey, Joe Louis is 137 years old." A hundred and thirty-seven years old!

Prime for prime Louis stops Marciano and it wouldn't be pretty.

[Atreyu Khalil]

And the quality of his opposition has been getting steadily worse since.....

This is true, but I can't blame that on him. He just does what he does. None of these guys want to fight. They all act tough at the press conferences then they pu$$y out in the ring. I can't blame Wlad because these other guys aren't as dedicated to their craft as he is. He cant be knocked because everyone else hasn't strived to get to his skill level and focus.

[Barn]

More pissing and moaning. Joe Louis fought a whole slew of bums when he was champ.

Although it wasn't a fantastic division it was still certainly solid there were still a few very good fighters involved.

Billy Conn, Jersey Joe Walcott, Max Schmeling. Just to name a few who were good fighters and better than anyone Wladimir has beaten.