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  • Originally posted by Deevel916 View Post
    Manny's money split is reasonable. Floyd's isnt!

    45/55 with the winner getting 55 > Flat fee and I keep all the ppv revenue for what's expected to be the biggest grossing fight in the history of the sport.
    Reasonable and right are not the same. Thats why I keep saying just run the numbers and split it that way. Please tell me what is wrong with that?

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    • isn't floyd giving Cotto a 65-35 split of PPV? Floyd's a ******, Manny does 1.1-1.3mil PPVs and Floyd does a little more. He had one fight with Oscar that blew all records away but that doesn't mean u can get 100% even if u averaged 2.5mil PPVs u wouldn't be entitled to 100% of PPV ******

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      • Anyone that believes that Floyd gets 100% of all PPV is as dumb as he is. HBO is going to show that for free? Cable/satellite providers for free? A great boxer, but what a damn fool.

        When he fought Ortiz, GBP paid him and same goes for Marquez. So definitely he was taking home a huge part of the profits. He was the proven PPV seller there. However, against Pacquiao, he brings the same or about 90% of the same money to the table. Why he is willing to offer him $40 million? Because he knows that Pac will bring another $80 to $100 million and Haymon definitely told him this. Greedy mofo is all about the money and he knows he needs lots of it because he is spending and not investing at all. And the way he bets? Another athlete broke. Good for him.

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        • Originally posted by shade darkar View Post
          i could be wrong but im pretty certain that hatton got 50% against pacquiao. and that is not relevant anyway. what is relevant is what a fight between mayweather and pacquiao is worth.

          i see your argument about pac is used to making 25 so why should he expect more? i could say the same about floyd. why does he expect to make way more than he normally does?

          floyd is trying to give pac his loose change and keep 100%. if that isnt saying i dont want the fight, i dont know what is.
          The reason floyd will get more is the same reason ODH got more, floyd is investing his money up front for a greater return opn the back end. And I am not saying manny shouldn't get a substantial increase. I am saying that unfortunatelky. just like floyd lost out on 2.4 mil ppv's, manny, based on his current arrangement with TR will lose out too.

          Imagine if the fight doesn't sell what we expect, floyd will take a huge loss while manny wont. No one is discussing that though.

          Look we agree $40 mil was a lowball offer and wanting all ppv is greedy.

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          • Originally posted by Deevel916 View Post
            Bad comparison. At the time, Oscar was a MUCH bigger draw than Floyd! The fight with Oscar is what propelled Floyd to where he's at now.

            As it stands, Pac is already a superstar in the sport and has generated more ppv buys and revenue than Floyd. You can say its because Pac has had more fights on ppv than Floyd but then again, who's fault is that? It was Floyd himself who opted to stay inactive and retire multiple times.
            More to it than just ppv. And no offense, but manny's biggest ppv, the 1.5 with JMM. FLoyd has 2 ppvs at or above that.

            While I agree manny is in a much better position than floyd when he fought ODH, that doesn't mean they are equal. I think you'd have to agree with that.

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            • Originally posted by junior gong View Post
              Poor comparisons, Leonard-Hearns(both at the start of their careers) and Leonard-Hagler(Leonard retired for three years). Where the hell do you get this Floyd-ODLH comparison from? That is a completely different set of circumstances and completely irellevant.

              I am not sure whether you want to defend Floyd or just **** on Bob and Manny, whatever it is there is no way to defend this absolute,and downright crazy **** from Floyd.
              There is no defense of anything. Just run the numbers and split it that way. Is there anything fairer than that?

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              • Originally posted by Big Dunn View Post
                The reason floyd will get more is the same reason ODH got more, floyd is investing his money up front for a greater return opn the back end. And I am not saying manny shouldn't get a substantial increase. I am saying that unfortunatelky. just like floyd lost out on 2.4 mil ppv's, manny, based on his current arrangement with TR will lose out too.

                Imagine if the fight doesn't sell what we expect, floyd will take a huge loss while manny wont. No one is discussing that though.

                Look we agree $40 mil was a lowball offer and wanting all ppv is greedy.
                floyd doesnt need to lay any money out. thats bob arums job. floyd says he has his guarentee. pacquiao has his.

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                • Originally posted by Big Dunn View Post
                  The reason floyd will get more is the same reason ODH got more, floyd is investing his money up front for a greater return opn the back end. And I am not saying manny shouldn't get a substantial increase. I am saying that unfortunatelky. just like floyd lost out on 2.4 mil ppv's, manny, based on his current arrangement with TR will lose out too.

                  Imagine if the fight doesn't sell what we expect, floyd will take a huge loss while manny wont. No one is discussing that though.

                  Look we agree $40 mil was a lowball offer and wanting all ppv is greedy.

                  not true at all in the least.

                  floyd is not a promoter. oscar got more because he was byyyyyyyyyy faaaaarrrr the bigger draw. it wasn't eve close to close

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                  • Originally posted by Big Dunn View Post
                    Reasonable and right are not the same. Thats why I keep saying just run the numbers and split it that way. Please tell me what is wrong with that?
                    So you're saying it's reasonable for Pac to just $40m from a potentially $160m fight, and not get any PPV, even those from international viewers who would gladly skin Floyd alive, and just let Floyd get all the money?

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                    • floyd's second blatant attempt at getting out of the fight, and I totally don't understand it.

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